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So how does your government work?
danny_galaga:
--- Quote from: SeaMonkey on February 22, 2005, 12:48:10 pm ---A woman's right to vote, emancipation, affirmative action, and prohibition are examples of sweeping progressive changes to our culture, that was born of the fertile soil that is our electorate system. Issues that would not have fared as well under a single popular vote.
That is how my government works.
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interesting then that the british abolished slavery decades before the US and that new zealand was the first country to allow women to vote...
SeaMonkey:
--- Quote from: danny_galaga on February 23, 2005, 08:19:57 am ---
--- Quote from: SeaMonkey on February 22, 2005, 12:48:10 pm ---A woman's right to vote, emancipation, affirmative action, and prohibition are examples of sweeping progressive changes to our culture, that was born of the fertile soil that is our electorate system. Issues that would not have fared as well under a single popular vote.
That is how my government works.
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interesting then that the british abolished slavery decades before the US and that new zealand was the first country to allow women to vote...
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Agreed. The U.S. and U.K. have a long history of differing culture. Starting pretty much on day one, due in part to the politics of the day and also due in part to the people that left there, for here.
A pretty complex discussion could ensue on just this single point, actually.
fredster:
Ok, just wait.
Soon the "my government is better stuff will start".
--- Quote ---interesting then that the british abolished slavery decades before the US and that new zealand was the first country to allow women to vote...
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zing to the US from The Aussies (didn't match thread of "So how does your government work?") because it's not his government.
--- Quote ---In the US, even if you 50.1% of the total popular vote, you can still lose the presidency.
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From Canada.
Maybe our view of flaming is different. I respect that.
The US government works as effectively as any. We have our problems, but the structure is sound. We change leaders within our laws and without bloodshed.
Our government is too large IMO. We expect it to do more than maybe it can or should.
My government is held within boundries and also reflects the values of most of the people it serves.
My government for the most part is fair. We tolerate decenting opinions.
jbox:
--- Quote ---Maybe our view of flaming is different. I respect that.
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Perhaps, but if you could point out which of those two comments was untrue, I will be happy to agree they were "flames". I believe those posters were merely pointing out historical facts in response to the suggestion that the electoral college system is the best way to improve the representation of minorities. For example, the proposition "It also protects the future from dictatorship" was not backed with a technical explination, such as how it prevented US citizens being locked up without charge throughout the century ("those who need it most"). Technically that makes the original poster a troll, rather than a flamer. ;D
From my experience in this country the notion that a politician will represent their electorate and fight tooth and nail is a myth. Far more important to them is the party that paid for their ticket. Recently there was a huge debate about the federal govt trying to build a national nuclear waste dump in SA, and the SA Liberal members got told not to oppose the measure (or else). Sure, the occassional member can make a big deal on a religious policy or two, but do you know which party policies your local member will vote against? >:(
SeaMonkey:
--- Quote from: jbox on February 23, 2005, 08:08:49 pm --- For example, the proposition "It also protects the future from dictatorship"
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