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Flying to Nevada from Illinois with a gun
Zakk:
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On the flip side of this if everybody was conscious of the fact that anyone could be carrying, everyone would be very nice to each other.
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Hey, no offense meant, but if that's your idea of a perfect society: Everyone eyeing each other hoping that they don't get a bullet in the brain for not saying "thank you" when someone holds open a door?
And yes, I'm in another country, so I know you don't give a flying frep about what I think, but still... that comment seems really out of whack.
My idea is more: "Jeez, you just never know when some beautiful girl is just going to up and flash you.
Bones:
--- Quote from: Sephroth57 on February 18, 2005, 05:35:09 pm ---so should we get rid of knives, swords, chemicals, blunt heavy objects, while were at it?
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Well within reason, why not?
Or get to heart of the problem and ask why your society feels so compelled to protect itself from each other.
This ain't a shot (pun intended) at the yanks. I have a baseball but under my bed and anybody who enters my home and threatens my family is not going to wake up again.
But there is a difference between this and the relaxed attitude towards guns. If this genuinely makes your country a better place to live and I have failed to understand the bigger picture, I can deal with being wrong.
Grasshopper:
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The number of guns per citizens is exactly why Brits never have to come here, and rescue us from the Germans....and that was its intent all along.
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The reason why the US is unlikely to be invaded any time soon has nothing whatsoever to do with gun ownership. The USA obviously now has powerful army but it's also protected by geography. The USA is a vast country and thus difficult to occupy. It is surrounded by large oceans to the east and west, and friendly (and relatively weak) neighbours to the north and south, and is thus difficult to invade.
An armed militia would be no match for a professional army. Look at the example of Iraq given earlier. Most adult male Iraqis own a gun yet Iraq was invaded with ridiculous ease. And I haven't even begun to talk about nuclear weapons.
And prior to the war all those guns in circulation didn't protect the ordinary citizens from Saddam Hussain and his henchmen.
SeaMonkey:
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Or get to heart of the problem and ask why your society feels so compelled to protect itself from each other.
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Exactly. Countries could ask themselves the same questions...and get the same answers.
Why would Jews in pre-WWII germany want to hold on to their guns, in spite of the new gun control laws? That makes no sense!
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But there is a difference between this and the relaxed attitude towards guns. If this genuinely makes your country a better place to live and I have failed to understand the bigger picture, I can deal with being wrong.
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I assure you, my attitude toward gun ownership is anything but relaxed.
SeaMonkey:
--- Quote ---The reason why the US is unlikely to be invaded any time soon has nothing whatsoever to do with gun ownership. The USA obviously now has powerful army but it's also protected by geography. The USA is a vast country and thus difficult to occupy. It is surrounded by large oceans to the east and west, and friendly (and relatively weak) neighbours to the north and south, and is thus difficult to invade.
An armed militia would be no match for a professional army. Look at the example of Iraq given earlier. Most adult male Iraqis own a gun yet Iraq was invaded with ridiculous ease. And I haven't even begun to talk about nuclear weapons.
And prior to the war all those guns in circulation didn't protect the ordinary citizens from Saddam Hussain and his henchmen
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Iraq is the size of Illinois.
Apples and cranberries.
The U.S. has seen fighting on its soil, and civilian arms has always had an impact. The sheer number of our guns is greater than any five standing armies in the world, combined.