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Flying to Nevada from Illinois with a gun
TOK:
--- Quote from: shmokes on February 25, 2005, 07:44:31 pm ---
Age an't all it's cracked up to be Fredster. When you're in diapers and wheeling around an oxygen tank, I'll still be playing golf and building arcade controls. And I'll still be able to run circles around you when it comes to logical reasoning.
Whatever.
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Providing you don't get robbed and slaughtered because you're afraid to defend yourself.
fredster:
--- Quote ---And I'll still be able to run circles around you when it comes to logical reasoning.
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As long as you think so man. I'm glad for you.
fredster:
I guess I have never really understood why people have this aversion to guns. Especially getting comments from overseas.
I can't for the life of me understand why someone in another country doesn't like the fact that Americans have the right to bare arms. What does it matter to you? How could it possibly affect these people?
SeaMonkey:
Heh.
I am just overly satisfied that the facts are not refutable, and in the end, would-be detractors are left with, grasping at straws.
The time of formation is well docuemented, by personal diary and the slew of conversations that took place on the editorial pages of news papers of the day.
If you can't find it quoted by the founding fathers, they didn't say it.
Anyone in the U.S. with an 8th grade education knows why the 2nd Amendment was reworded. This isn't even highschool civics. It's elementary history.
However, disingenuous the last weak volley may be, there are those from other countries that never had the good fortune to sit in an American History class.
The fact is, Hamilton wanted a standing army. Jefferson, it could be argued, was a one man army that kept Hamilton from making the Americas into a monarchy.
However, the fact remains that the meaning of the word militia was not vague to the men of the day. And it wouldn't be now, if liberals would not have spent 200 years trying to rewrite history. There is nothing ambiguous about
SeaMonkey:
--- Quote from: shmokes on February 25, 2005, 08:06:22 pm ---I suspect that the vagueness was sometimes intentional, as a compromise. There was a lot of contention over the wording of these amendments. I think some of them could not get enough votes to pass until it was made vague enough that people of various positions could read it in a way that they felt could reasonably be interpreted as they liked. Damned democracy always compllicating things!
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Well yeah. That was the point. The states could make the important decisions and the fed was to keep their hands off. The entire constitution reads like that....on purpose.
Who had a democracy? We are a REPUBLIC here in the U.S.
The word "democracy" isn't even in the Constitution.
Seriously....tell me you knew we were not a democracy. I mean, if you didn't get anything else from 12 years of public schools, tell me you at least know what KIND of government you have.