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NoOne=NBA=:

No, but that's EXACTLY the way you want to be thinking.
Get a list of everything you KNOW you need, try to get suggestions for stuff you DIDN'T know you need, and then see what the best way to order everything will be.

It was actually cheaper for me to order my leafswitch buttons from Bob Roberts, and the holders/switches from another company, than to order everything from Bob Roberts.

Alot of people don't factor shipping into their purchases, which can be very costly.
It may be cheaper to pay more up front, and save on shipping, in many cases

cholin:

I strongly agree in this matter.  I have a list compiled in Word that's around 2 pages long with Manufacturers and prices, including shipping and handling converted into CAD funds.  Trust me, Ive been planning ahead.  You guys are all geniouses though, so I get suggestions from people who've done it before :)

Tiger-Heli:

Lots of info on both products here:

http://www.mameworld.net/tigerheli/encoder/index.htm

To me, the shift functionality is a big difference, but it doesn't sound like you'll be using that.

As you mention, the other big difference is programming.

If you're only using MAME with the default outputs, you can pretty easily skip this on either encoder.

Otherwise, I also have a lot of comments on the software on the page above.

cholin:

Actually, I do plan on using the SHIFT button or else I will need an extra 5 buttons :)  Also impressed with the MACROS in the iPac.  I do plan on using it for MAME only pretty much but my guidelines are:

1) CHEAP
2) EXPANDABLE
3) RELIABLE

Tiger-Heli:

>Actually, I do plan on using the SHIFT button or else I will need an extra 5 buttons >:)

Okay, they work a little differently but nothing that would make a whole lot of difference to you, from the sounds of it.  Biggest difference - The I-PAC has a button which ALSO acts as the shift function.  The KeyWiz has a totally separate button for accessing the shift function (less chance of accidental activation, one additional button on your panel), although you CAN wire the KeyWiz shift function to work SIMILAR to the I-PAC.

>Also impressed with the MACROS in the iPac.

Cool feature, Gets ZERO usage in MAME.  Biggest usage for it is Emulators that want Alt-F4 to exit (but there are alternative or hacked version of most of these anyway).  Also, note that you are limited to 4 macros per codeset, so this can't be used for PC games with 20 some Alt and 20 some Ctrl combinations - (not that you'd have that many buttons anyway).

>I do plan on using it for MAME only pretty much but my guidelines are:
>1) CHEAP

Hard to beat the GGG Eco2.

>2) EXPANDABLE

Neither one really from a hardware standpoint.  Pretty much a draw here.

>3) RELIABLE

Pretty much a draw here as well.  I've seen more problem posts with the I-PAC, but it's also been around a lot longer and has a larger user base, so that needs to be factored in.

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