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Shape D.:


--- Quote from: GGKoul on February 09, 2005, 12:26:07 pm ---If you read the article, it doesn't state that.  It mainly saids stop doing "friends" things with her and do more exciting things together.

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what I read was basically: ignore her, have fun with other girls (or at least make it seem like youre having fun with other girls), and that if shes done with seing you to tell her to f off.

AKA start being a jerk

GGKoul:


--- Quote from: Shape D. on February 09, 2005, 12:36:01 pm ---AKA start being a jerk

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Whatever works for you.  But I met the women I met over the years because I was a nice guy and I was not-a-jerk.


DaveMMR:


--- Quote from: ChadTower on February 09, 2005, 10:16:02 am ---Nyeh, I know Seph some, and there's some backstory to this.  He's a friend, but I'll be honest here.  She's in that point in her life where she's getting out of school soon, moving on with life for the career, etc.  Seph has shown no interest in getting an education, a career... he's not going anywhere.  Chicks don't want that guy who is too lazy to even go to community college because that guy's never going to progress any further.

It's lame sometimes, but that's just how it is.  I wouldn't want a chick who never developed some type of career or true independence after high school.  The way she sees it, Seph is one layoff away from being a Walmart employee and is doing nothing to change that.  I'm not saying he should go to MIT and study Astrophysics, but showing some type of ambition in life would have helped his case with her.

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I was in the same boat as Seph. I had a gf when I was 21.  I had taken a break from college at the time (because, let's be honest here, I had no idea what I wanted to do and I didn't feel like shelling out the cash for uncertainty).  I wasn't lazy or a bum.  I worked a full time job at an insurance office and while I wasn't rich, I wasn't sponging off anyone.  But she broke up with me after a year because the lack of a degree didn't sit right with her.  Meanwhile, she's changed majors fifteen times now and is spending all of her daddies money trying to figure out a job that won't have her breaking into tears over the stress.

Honestly - good riddance to my ex.  College is important and nice and all but if a girl is judging a man based on his earning potential (and I'm not referring to your ex Seph - just all women in general) then she just openly admitted she's a gold digger.  Why?  Women have the almost same opprutunities as men.  If she wants that nice house and that expensive car then she can go out and get it herself!  I'm not saying women should date bums, but uneducated does not mean stupid nor does it mean unemployable (Bill Gates was a college drop-out).  And contrary to what the universities say, education is free.  It's the degree that costs money. 

You know what though?  Men don't have the same hang-ups as women.  Men wouldn't dump a perfect woman who just happens to not have a degree.  As long as she's got a job, is responsible for her own actions, and doesn't leech off of her man then college education is hardly an issue.  And if you are judging women by that, your priorities in life are severely out of whack.

Additionally, not going to 'even a Community College' doesn't mean lazy.  Education, even in a community college, costs some serious dough.  And don't tell me "financial aid" or "student loans" will help.   Did you know that when I applied for my computer school they told me I make too much money for financial aid?  I wish I was making "too much money" but they seem to have forgotten lliving expenses.  I did get a loan but only for half.  That was $5000 out of pocket I had to pay.

Ambition is important - but he's only in his early 20s.  I didn't figure out anything until I was in my mid-20s.  Take your time Seph.   

Anyway, my current girlfriend knows about my decisions in life and what I do for a living and where I intend to take what I've learned.  She doesn't judge me on anything and she's great that way.  That's the type of girl you should strive for, because you don't want someone who'll leave you if times get rough and belts need to be tightened.



Sephroth57:

i dont really have time to sit here and make a long reply. but ive been trying to absorb all the totally different views a lot of you have and sorting out what i think is right... some decent advice here i would say if u wade through the crap..

this board is more mature then most i go to so i figured here would be the best place for actual conversation

ChadTower:


--- Quote from: DaveMMR on February 09, 2005, 01:16:31 pm ---Additionally, not going to 'even a Community College' doesn't mean lazy. 

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It is for the reasons Seph has given.  He doesn't want to write essays that don't interest him. 

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