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"Propagannon" confirmed : Fake reporter in WH press conferences.
fredster:
Ok, Cooter, where's the link?
Does it say this - "Jeff Gannon, Washington Bureau Chief and White House correspondent for Talon News and syndicated columnist
brings you an inside perspective on the news."
SeaMonkey:
So what?
As far as "scandals" go, this is pretty tame. Bush has a long way to go to catch up with his opening act in that department.
mr.Curmudgeon:
--- Quote from: fredster on February 12, 2005, 05:11:42 pm ---Prove to me that this man was a plant. The White house says he wasn't.
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ROFL! Ok then. It's settled. The WH says so!! Good for you and those well-worn critical-thinking skills!!
So in summary,
1) He had credentials.
(mrc: That's the problem. He shouldn't have, he didn't meet the official WH criteria.)
2) He used his real name.
(mrc: Uh, no. No he didn't. "Gannon" isn't his real name.)
3) He is not a "plant".
(mrc: Great argument! No supporting evidence!! Nicely packaged!! Would buy from again!!! AAA+++)
--- Quote ---Talon is no more a "fake" news service than Salon.... How many stories does it take to make a journalist?
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Apparently exactly nine, in the eyes of the White House. Because that is all "Talon News" had published in the five days before they gave them credentials.
fredster,
You are in some serious denial on this one. Mr. Guckert, HIMSELF, has admitted to using an alias. As far as him being a legitimate journalist, he has no degree (He only attended a $50 two-day seminar at the Leadership Institute), and he was previously denied press credentials by the 2003 for the Senate/House galleries because "Talon News" failed to prove itself to be a legitimate news agency, and DID NOT meet the very same standards required for credentials to the White House. Furthermore, "Talon News" was formed five days before his first pass to the WH was granted. The mere fact that he was allowed entrance to the WH press corp for the past two years, given these circumstances, is completely unbelievable.
BTW, as far as the CBS memo scandal goes, you're ideological bias is showing when you accuse me of ignoring it. I've spoken out numerous times regarding my disappointment over the lack of verification re: the memos authenticity. I've written and spoken to several individuals at CBS in an effort to express that very same disappointment. However, this situation with "Gannon" bears no resemblance *AT ALL* to the TANG memos, thus your attempt at moral equivalency is completely irrelevant. I also find it extremely ironic that you'd disparage the investigation into "Gannon" simply because it's initially being done by a left-leaning blog ("Some left wing hack web site?"), yet you'd banner-wave a story (TANG memos) by a completely fringe, hate-filled right-wing site (freerepublic). You're too much sometimes. I prefer to let the content of the story speak for itself. Which, btw, is all over the media...well, except FOX. They won't touch the story. (Which to me proves it's authenticity even more)
Lastly, it's not my, or any other posters job, to prove anything to you. If you're not willing to follow the story for yourself and come to some sort of logical conclusion, then there's nothing anyone else can do.
--- Quote ---I had to go through 8 Clinton years so I know the frustration and disappointment of an administration I didn't like.
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Poor thing. Record surpluses, economic stability, record job growth, relative peace...it must have been hell for you.
mrC
mr.Curmudgeon:
--- Quote ---I simply said it is done and to bash one administration for it without bashing every other major media outlet isn't useful.
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No other media outlet, or administration, has been caught having a fake reporter credentialed in the White House.
--- Quote ---Try and keep focus rather than searching out a new reason to bash every couple of days.
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The focus is to hold the White House, and the Bush administration at large, fully accountable for any and/or all misdeeds committed during their tenure, whilst not using the word "bash" 'cause it just sounds too whiny and apologetic.
--- Quote from: ChadTower on February 12, 2005, 08:49:34 am ---I actually liked Clinton until he stood up there and LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE about something that was not a matter of national security. All the other stuff, the illegal financial dealings, the people dying to save his ass, I just didn't care about. But the moment he openly stood at a podium and LIED TO US to save himself, that was it. A man of integrity would not have done that. I'd rather have an idiot of integrity than a weaselly liar.
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Somehow I find it impossible to believe you're truly morally outraged over a lie about a blow job. But if you say so...
Anyhow, how's that "idiot of integrity" doing with that WMD search?
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: mr.Curmudgeon on February 13, 2005, 02:50:56 am ---Somehow I find it impossible to believe you're truly morally outraged over a lie about a blow job. But if you say so...
Anyhow, how's that "idiot of integrity" doing with that WMD search?
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Well, if you're going to accuse me of lying on that point, do it. Personal integrity is far more important to me than anything else. Clinton proved he had none when he stood there and lied about something simply to protect himself. Lying to save lives is one thing, there's a positive motivation for it. Lying to save himself trouble is unforgivable, especially given the insulting condescension of it when he knew it was provable. Now, it's not impeachable, but that's not what he was impeached for anyway.
As for record surplusses and all that loveliness, all one can call that is coincedental timing since he didn't do anything but eff us any harder than any other President. Things like NAFTA don't benefit us at all.
Bush didn't find the WMDs. We knew going in that the odds of finding a briefcase full of mason jars in a desert country were next to impossible. Keep in mind that EVERYONE, even the French and Germans, were in full agreement that he must possess those weapons.