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Iraq Elections
fredster:
Wow Shmokes, I mean Cooter, you never cease to amaze!
Not only have you analyzed the entire poltical spectrum and determined that democracy isn't the best, you have even come to the conclusion that commies are mommies.
Crazy Cooter:
Heheh, Shmokes gets the blame... :angel:
jbox:
--- Quote from: Crazy Cooter on February 02, 2005, 10:43:00 pm ---Heheh, Shmokes gets the blame... :angel:
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Guess it's too hard to be righteous in two threads a time and remember which lib'rl heathen you're currently attacking. :D
Although for the record, I'd be concerned if you really think democracy isn't the most equitable electoral system of them all. However, I'm more than happy to agree that capitalism as an equitable economic system needs some work (but I sure like being able to vote on that opinion)...
jbox:
--- Quote from: fredster on February 02, 2005, 10:12:15 am ---
--- Quote ---After all, why else claim that total warfare is the *ONLY* alternative to oil dependance?
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It wasn't total. It was isolated and it was strategic.
What exactly were the other options?
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--- Quote ---Israel stands only with the US, and we are drawn into a war with a contient to fight off.
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"A continent to fight off" is "isolated and it was strategic"? I guess you must be thinking of when the time comes you have to attack Australia! :D Or perhaps you confused the fact I was rebutting your "it was either Iraq or the WORLD" doomsday post, because then you wouldn't have something cool to say in retort. :-*
And there are lots of alternatives to oil-for-fuel, after which we could conserve this limited resource for building those things that need oil like plastic. Hence my suspicion that you are in fact a mole for the Greens, just as keen as I am to conserve this precious commidity from being wasted where it doesn't need to be (like SUVs). Don't worry, I wont tell anyone else so your secret is safe with me Comrade! 8)
DrewKaree:
--- Quote from: Dexter on February 02, 2005, 11:38:26 am ---No, but approx 70% of europe does in general share my views (and don't worry, I didn't forget poland LOL!!)
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And a percentage of Iraqi people equal to your claim of "they agree with me" turned out to show their agreement with what Bush is attempting to establish.
All of Europe can agree with you, but you're ignoring the people who matter in this "debate". The Iraqi people themselves have spoken. Your opinion, and the opinion of all who agree with you, matters very little to those who enjoyed voicing their political opinion.
Also, as ill-informed as I'd like for you to continue sounding, I'd like to point something out that you choose to ignore in your latest "I hate Bush" tirades.
You continue to put forth your crackpot view that we're "forcing" this process on the Iraqi people.
Let's drop the % of reported voters in Iraq's elections. Drop it to half. 50%.
When 50% of America (actually, 47%) said they didn't want Bush, to you, that was tantamount to all of America saying "Boot 'im out!"
In Iraq, when 50% (actually, more than that, but to dumb it down for ya) say they want to give the process "Bush forced on them", that means they've chosen to "give it a whirl". When someone chooses to try something out, when more than half the nation wants to give it a go, your "it was forced" bilge is simply another attempt to throw as much crap against the wall to see what sticks.
The IRAQI people chose. They went to vote, under conditions that Americans equate with "voter disenfranchisement"...actually, under conditions that make American voters seem like SISSIES for complaining about their "hardships". To say that this was "forced" on them is either ignorant, or another tactic you choose to employ to take as many cheap shots as you can. I actually suspect it's both.
It's yet another reason his supporters like him. Bush didn't find it necessary to call ol' Dexter and see what he thought, and what Johnny Left-wing thought, and Joe We-need-tolerance thought. It's the "Git 'er done" that we like. That it galls you to no end is simply a side benefit we enjoy daily.
Hey Cooter, what was your intended purpose with this thread, again? It seems to have become another "bash Bush" thread. I wonder if you ever got your questions answered.
My answers being posthumous
I thought there'd be about half the nation turn out
Same reason Americans not currently in the U.S. get to vote
I think it's xx amount of votes (and that there will be less fraud found than in the U.S.)
Entire groups of people in the U.S. don't vote. Our elections aren't any less valid
If boycotted, they still made a choice in the elections
One more observation - the U.S. needed to make a drop of wet naps to the polling places