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crashwg:
To answer you question of do I think it's worth it...  Heck yea, why the fark not?  I may just steal that idea and run with it a little bit.

The way I have my CP set up is I'm going to have a pause button on it (I know, I know, not exactly authentic but I didn't have a phone to answer or a baby to take care of in the arcade either...) I plan on having the pause button be the shift button but now you've got me thinking.  Maybe I'll but in a key lock which in the off position would have the input send only the P key but if the key is in the on position it would be P when released and shift if used in combination with another button.  It would be easy enough to do, just set up two inputs on the I-Pac to be P but have only one be set up as the shift key then have the key connect either one of the inputs to the button depending on which way the key was turned!

Did ya follow all that?  ;D

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Oh yea, forgot to mention that the lock would be best if it were posible to remove the key in both positions...
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Bones:

--- Quote from: quarterback on January 29, 2005, 12:49:19 pm ---
--- Quote from: NoOne=NBA= on January 29, 2005, 02:09:16 am ---The actual shift button you are planning to use is redundant.
If the keyswitch is ON, everything is shifted.
If the keyswitch is OFF, everything is UNshifted.

--- End quote ---

I can only assume that BrokenBones1 is going to hook it up like this:
This green line irepresents the shift button.
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danny_galaga:
regardless of wiring/logic probs, if you have a coin door you can fit a microswitch to the door lock. that way nothing looks out of place. myself im going to just use the reject button. no one touches it. the default as player 1 button on the ipac i thought would have been sufficient but occasionally someones knee presses it causing all sorts of havoc  >:(
Bones:

--- Quote from: danny_galaga on January 29, 2005, 07:23:52 pm ---regardless of wiring/logic probs, if you have a coin door you can fit a microswitch to the door lock. that way nothing looks out of place.
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That is a great idea! I had all but decided to put the key switch somewhere discreet but this now gives me something else to think about.

I have all but decided that the key system will suit me well and hopefully prevent some of the problems read here http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,29252.0.html

NoOne=NBA=:

--- Quote from: BrokenBones1 on January 29, 2005, 08:25:33 pm ---That is a great idea! I had all but decided to put the key switch somewhere discreet
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That's the part that doesn't make sense.
If you're going to pay EXTRA money for a keyswitch button, why would you HIDE it?

If you're going to HIDE it, why not just use a simple, and CHEAPER, on/off switch inside the coin door?

If the keyswitch is going to be VISIBLE, why not just use IT as the shift button?

When the key isn't IN, the switch doesn't work, and you can't access the shifted functions.
When the key is IN, but NOT on, you have normal functions.
When the key is IN, AND the key is ON, you have shifted functions.

This does EXACTLY what you wanted the system to do, but eliminates the REDUNDANT button on the CP.
If you put the keyswitch somewhere accessible, but hidden (bottom of the CP overhang, for example), YOU can do all the admin you want, but nobody ELSE will even know it's there when the key is removed.
If returning to off (like the shift button you are planning to use) is an issue, use a MOMENTARY keyswitch.

The ROOT problem here isn't really the accessibility of the shift button anyway.
The ROOT problem is that the built-in code on the I-pac uses P-1 START as the shift key, and nobody thinks to change that.
That creates a condition where player 1 HAS to hit the shift button to continue a game, and can't do so without activating ALL the shifted functions.

I got around that by using my PAUSE key as shift.
If you hit the button, and HOLD it, you get shifted functions.
If you hit the button, and RELEASE it, the game pauses.

I've had kids from 3-15 play my cabinet for years now--without EVER locking it up.
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