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paigeoliver:


--- Quote from: JCKnife on December 02, 2004, 07:51:52 am ---Okay, that sounds sensible enough.

I read somewhere that Dell cases are somewhat proprietary...will an ordinary motherboard fit in one?

I haven't cracked this case open yet. I assume the integrated audio is part of the mobo so I either need to find a replacement that has it or get a sound card, I guess.

Any recommendations? What else do I need to be looking for?

Processor is a P4 3GHz.

What abou the memory? I transfer it over?

Geez it's been over a decade since I mucked about inside a PC case.



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In the last decade the STANDARDS of what the stuff in the case does has changed, but the basic stuff in the case has not. Just note what all your motherboard has onboard and buy another one the same, except WITHOUT the onboard video.

You can reuse your ram and your processor and all that.

Just make sure the new motherboard isn't bigger than the old one, otherwise it should fit,as they aren't as proprietary as they used to be.

I always build AMD systems, so I can't recommend a model, but perhaps someone else can.

Someone else, pick out this dude a mobo, he needs P4 support at 3 GHZ, onboard sound and lan, without onboard video.

paigeoliver:


--- Quote from: civic83 on December 02, 2004, 08:04:42 am ---In general only dell supplied parts will fit most of their cases.  usually the mounting points are either moved or not there at all ( some use clips to hold the board in).  Also, alot of dell machines use custom power supplies.  The ATX plug is the same but the pinout is different.  usually it results in a fried motherboard and power supply.  You would be better off buying a 50-75 dollar board and a cheap cpu form somewhere and building yourself something wiht AGP rather than trying to get the dell to accomodate your card.  Also, dont you have a limited time to return the system to dell?  if so, see if you can return it and upgrade to a system that does have an AGP port in it.



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I haven't run into that problem with recent Dells. I replaced the power supply in one recently with an off the shelf model.

civic83:

might be ok with the new p4's, havnt checked in a while.

JCKnife:

I'll open the case when I get home and see what I can figure out. At this point I'm leaning towards selling the whole system to a co-worker at like a $50 loss and starting over, but I'm probably over-reacting.

Lilwolf:

If it was new try and see if you can return it and upgrade to another dell

Dell (and all(?)) named major brands..

They sell the cheapest motherboard which has the video card on the motherboard..

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