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Snarbald:

One thing no one here has said - if you got windows with the computer,  you probably need a dell motherboard to be able to reinstall in the future. Every Dell OEM windows cd I've ever had checked for Dell parts.

paigeoliver:


--- Quote from: JCKnife on December 02, 2004, 11:41:38 am ---
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on December 02, 2004, 08:05:44 am ---Someone else, pick out this dude a mobo, he needs P4 support at 3 GHZ, onboard sound and lan, without onboard video.

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Why would I need onbaord LAN?

At this point I'm leaning towards selling the system I have and assembling components from scratch for my cab. 4 co-workers have expressed SOME interest in buying my Dell.

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I always get onboard lan, it doesn't seem to add anything to the price of the motherboard, so why not get it? Actually, the only features I have seen that REALLY seem to crank up the prices are more memory slots, for some reason having more 4 memory slots costs a ton more money than having 3.

elvis:


--- Quote from: NoOne=NBA= on December 02, 2004, 09:33:14 am ---Actually most of the NEW Dells are using PCI-X slots for their video now.
The 3000 was their budget model, and had onboard video only.

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No, they're using PCI-Express.  PCI-X is a totally different technology, usualy reserved for server motherboards needing high-bandwidth addon cards for RAID and gigabit/10-gigabit ethernet.

elvis:


--- Quote from: whammoed on December 02, 2004, 09:29:19 am ---I've noticed that the agp slot in general is going ByeBye.  Seems that Intel's 925 chipset boards have the new PCI Express x16 which is meant for the video.  I wonder if Andy has any plans for this?

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The ArcadeVGA's are typically based on existing ATi technology.  If that was the case, it would mean modding an X600 (the cheapest ATi card on PCI-Express tech) for use with the custom ArcadeVGA BIOS.  A standard X600 retails for $US550-$US650, and I'm not sure if anyone would be willing to pay that plus the standard ArcadeVGA markup just for PCI-Express.

Long story short, don't expect a PCI-Express ArcadeVGA any time soon. 

ATi are releasing their "X200" chipset as an integrated setup (ie: onboard video only).  If and when there's a budget PCI-Express Radeon chipset, then I'd say an AVGA will follow suit.  But for the meantime PCI-E is for high-end users only (or so ATi and Nvidia marketing monkeys want us to believe) and as such there won't be any low-end (read: CHEAP) chipsets for that bus type for a good 3-6 months at least.

whammoed:

um, there are x300 for $65:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-390&depa=0

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