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Kymaera Frontend 2.0.2 Release Now Available!
« on: November 12, 2004, 12:15:25 pm »
I have just released version 2.0.2 of my FE Kymaera. It's available for download at sourceforge.net/projects/kymaera

This version has a few new features, including joystick support for up to 4 joysticks, 10 buttons each. I've also made a few bug fixes, and in this version I'm releasing the much-anticipated DOS version of Kymaera that supports Arcade video modes.

Post here with any questions/comments.

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Re:Kymaera Frontend 2.0.2 Release Now Available!
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2004, 02:42:58 pm »
...and in this version I'm releasing the much-anticipated DOS version of Kymaera that supports Arcade video modes.

(menancing tone) you darn well better!  *shakes fist*

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Re:Kymaera Frontend 2.0.2 Release Now Available!
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2004, 03:02:31 pm »
Peale, do you have a DOS setup w/ and arcade monitor that you could test with?

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Re:Kymaera Frontend 2.0.2 Release Now Available!
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2004, 03:38:47 pm »
I've got several.  Yes, I'll test.

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Re:Kymaera Frontend 2.0.2 Release Now Available!
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2004, 07:52:47 pm »
Nice!!! there goes my Saturday

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thanks PMF

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Re:Kymaera Frontend 2.0.2 Release Now Available!
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2004, 08:17:11 pm »
Just tried it.  It didn't work.

I suspect part of the reason (after consulting the log) is that it thinks the working directory is:

C:/kymaera

Note the slash, not a backslash.

Also there are a lot more-than-eight/three than I thought, esp. after I got it on the cabinet.  No easy way to find them in there.

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Re:Kymaera Frontend 2.0.2 Release Now Available!
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2004, 12:30:16 am »
Just tried it.  It didn't work.

I suspect part of the reason (after consulting the log) is that it thinks the working directory is:

C:/kymaera

Note the slash, not a backslash.

Also there are a lot more-than-eight/three than I thought, esp. after I got it on the cabinet.  No easy way to find them in there.

The first step to get this all working, is to install the windows version of Kymaera, Then, unzip the DOS version into the c:\emu\frontend\kymaera installation directory. Basically, You need the Windows version to configure the DOS version to work properly.
Did you install both? or just the DOS exe?

in DOS, that c:/kymaera is fine, it's the same as a backslash.

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Re:Kymaera Frontend 2.0.2 Release Now Available!
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2004, 01:18:13 am »
Tried your front-end on my MAME running Windows 2000NT.  Works great!  I know not many people running Windows 2000, but I used it because my MAME is tied into my wireless network and I didn't want different OS's all over the house.
Please!  Give me the good news first!

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Re:Kymaera Frontend 2.0.2 Release Now Available!
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2004, 08:06:26 am »
Basically, You need the Windows version to configure the DOS version to work properly.
Did you install both? or just the DOS exe?

in DOS, that c:/kymaera is fine, it's the same as a backslash.

Of course.  Installed Windows version, then the DOS version in the same dir.

Went thru and configured everything for that particular system.  Had to make a few more changes once I got it into the cab (some long filenames).

Run ky_dos.exe and it starts running, loads allegro, then crashes.

And on what planet does a forward slash work the same as a backslash in DOS?

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Re:Kymaera Frontend 2.0.2 Release Now Available!
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2004, 12:21:15 pm »
Peale, If you can, send me the kymaera.kfg file, and the .emu files from your setup as well as the kymaera.log file. Did you try any non-arcade video modes for DOS? My card was having problems with the 640x480 arcade mode. You might have to try something like 320x240. I listed out a few modes to try in the dos.txt file.

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Re:Kymaera Frontend 2.0.2 Release Now Available!
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2004, 12:22:11 pm »
Peale, also, is this a w98 system? can you get the ky_dos.exe program to run from a command prompt?

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Re:Kymaera Frontend 2.0.2 Release Now Available!
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2004, 01:20:36 pm »
This is a DOS only system.  I'll have to pull the drive a bit later.

Didn't try any other graphics modes.  I did run it on my XP box before tossing the files on the other machine, and it gave the same error.

I will say the Windows version runs perfectly.

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Re:Kymaera Frontend 2.0.2 Release Now Available!
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2004, 03:31:58 pm »
I should have mentioned that the default graphics mode for the windows version is 800x600, If you want to run it on an arcade monitor, you must change it to be 640x480 or less. You can open up your kymaera.kfg file and manually tweak it, it's just an XML file. All the fields are fairly self-explainitory.

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Re:Kymaera Frontend 2.0.2 Release Now Available!
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2004, 04:43:44 pm »
Yup, 'tis already @ 640x480.  That was actually the first thing I did.

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Re:Kymaera Frontend 2.0.2 Release Now Available!
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2004, 04:46:07 pm »
Yup, 'tis already @ 640x480.  That was actually the first thing I did.

Try 320x240. Does the Kymaera.log file report any errors? Is the last thing it says "Entering rendering loop"?

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Re:Kymaera Frontend 2.0.2 Release Now Available!
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2004, 04:54:00 pm »
Nope.  The last thing it says is...um...let me go get the drive, I'll post anything you want.

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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2004, 05:01:56 pm »
kymaera.log:

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        0 : Log System initted
        5 : registering PNG
  7865195 : registering JPG
  7865195 : registering GIF
  7865210 : registering CD
 15730395 : registering JOYSTICK
 15730435 : setting app path
 23595595 : Calling startup
 23595695 : Current working directory is c:/kymaera\
 31460890 : sound start
 31460890 : Loading kymaera.kfg
 31460890 : EMU load 16 gamelist lists\mame3.xml
 31460890 : load gamelist lists\mame3.xml 1
 31460980 : EMU load 16 gamelist lists\favorite.xml
 31460985 : load gamelist lists\favorite.xml 1


kymaera.kfg:

<Kymaera>
<Version>2</Version>
<Emulators>
<ListCount>1</ListCount>
<Emulators0>config\mame.emu</Emulators0>
</Emulators>
<XRes>320</XRes>
<YRes>240</YRes>
<BPP>16</BPP>
<Inputrepeatdelay>125</Inputrepeatdelay>
<Screensaverdelay>20</Screensaverdelay>
<HideTaskBar>True</HideTaskBar>
<USEWINDOWSSSAVER>False</USEWINDOWSSSAVER>
<SSaverName/>
<IntroVideoFilename/>
<ExitVideoFilename/>
<LaunchVideoFilename/>
<UseIntroVideo>True</UseIntroVideo>
<UseExitVideo>True</UseExitVideo>
<UseLaunchVideo>True</UseLaunchVideo>
<UseArcadeModes>True</UseArcadeModes>
</Kymaera>


mame.emu:

<Emulator>
<Version>1</Version>
<RomPaths>
<ListCount>1</ListCount>
<RomPaths0>C:\mame84\roms</RomPaths0>
</RomPaths>
<RomExtensions>
<ListCount>1</ListCount>
<RomExtensions0>zip</RomExtensions0>
</RomExtensions>
<GameCatagorys>
<ListCount>2</ListCount>
<GameCatagorys0>lists\mame3.xml</GameCatagorys0>
<GameCatagorys1>lists\favorite.xml</GameCatagorys1>
</GameCatagorys>
<SoundMap>config\soundmap.smp</SoundMap>
<SnapsPath>C:\mame84\snaps</SnapsPath>
<TitlesPath>C:\mame84\titles</TitlesPath>
<MarqueesPath>C:\mame84\marquees</MarqueesPath>
<CabinetsPath>C:\mame84\cabinets</CabinetsPath>
<FlyersPath>C:\mame84\flyers</FlyersPath>
<ControlPanelsPath/>
<BezelsPath/>
<BoxArtsPath/>
<CoversPath/>
<Other1Path/>
<Other2Path/>
<Other3Path/>
<EmulatorDisplayName>Mame</EmulatorDisplayName>
<EmulatorLogoFile>skins\shared\logos\mametop.jpg</EmulatorLogoFile>
<ExeName>C:\mame84\dmame.exe</ExeName>
<Skinfile>skins\default\kymaera.skn</Skinfile>
<LastCatagoryFile/>
<LaunchCommands>
<NumberOfCommands>1</NumberOfCommands>
<Command0>
<Title>Launch Command</Title>
<ShowCommands>0</ShowCommands>
<Wait>1</Wait>
<AppPart>
<Part/>
<Type>0</Type>
</AppPart>
<LaunchParts>
<NumParts>6</NumParts>
<Part0>
<Part>($ROMPATH)</Part>
<Type>2</Type>
</Part0>
<Part1>
<Part>($ROMNAME)</Part>
<Type>1</Type>
</Part1>
<Part2>
<Part>.</Part>
<Type>4</Type>
</Part2>
<Part3>
<Part>($ROMEXT)</Part>
<Type>3</Type>
</Part3>
<Part4>
<Part> </Part>
<Type>4</Type>
</Part4>
<Part5>
<Part>($ROMPARMS)</Part>
<Type>5</Type>
</Part5>
</LaunchParts>
</Command0>
</LaunchCommands>
</Emulator>

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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2004, 05:17:46 pm »
Hmm....
Everything looks in order, I've had problems with the favorite.xml gamelist not loading corretly before in DOS. Try removing the favorite.xml list from your mame.emu through Kymaera Config (ky_cfg)

I'm going to take a look at your setup file a little more closely...


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Re:Kymaera Frontend 2.0.2 Release Now Available!
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2004, 05:20:47 pm »
This is the error I'm getting:

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D:\Kymaera>ky_dos
Shutting down Allegro
Exiting due to signal SIGSEGV
General Protection Fault at eip=00001012, error=cf00
eax=00000000 ebx=004788c0 ecx=00000000 edx=00000000 esi=00028000 edi=00000000
ebp=002af468 esp=002af457 program=D:\KYMAERA\KY_DOS.EXE
cs: sel=01a7  base=02980000  limit=0127ffff
ds: sel=01af  base=02980000  limit=0127ffff
es: sel=01af  base=02980000  limit=0127ffff
fs: sel=01af  base=02980000  limit=0127ffff
gs: sel=01bf  base=00000000  limit=0010ffff
ss: sel=01af  base=02980000  limit=0127ffff
App stack: [002af70c..0022f70c]  Exceptn stack: [0022f664..0022d724]

Call frame traceback EIPs:
  0x00001012

D:\Kymaera>

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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2004, 05:23:00 pm »
Interesting...this is what happens if I run the Windows version:

******************
      390 : Log System initted
      390 : registering PNG
      406 : registering JPG
      421 : registering GIF
      484 : registering CD
      562 : registering JOYSTICK
      562 : setting app path
      562 : Calling startup
      593 : Current working directory is D:\Kymaera\
      593 : sound start
      593 : Loading kymaera.kfg
      593 : No game catagory files defined, generating from rom directories
     1656 : created back buffer 320 240
     1656 : exit startup
     1656 : Initializing fonts
     1796 : Initializing Input
     1796 : Joystick Driver Installed
     1796 : 1 joysticks installed
     1796 : Joystick 0: 1 sticks, 6 buttons.
     1796 : Initializing Timer
    16265 : shutting down
    17031 : shutting down


Why does the DOS version have the slash, and the Windows version have the proper backslash.

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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2004, 05:31:59 pm »
Peale,
This is what has me a little concerned:
      593 : Loading kymaera.kfg
      593 : No game catagory files defined, generating from rom directories

It looks like your game catagory list files are not set up properly in the windows version. Is the gamelist being displayed? I think your problem may be the gamelist not loading correctly in the DOS version.  Make sure your gamelist works in the windows version, and then copy it over for your DOS version.

I wouldn't worry too much about that \ / thing, I call a standard function to get the current directory, and that is what is being reported back. It looks the same on my DOS version.

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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2004, 05:37:31 pm »
It displays just fine in the Windows version on this machine.  I'll give it another go.

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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2004, 05:37:53 pm »
BTW, I haven't been able to get the DOS version to work under XP or 2000, It seems to only work on 98,95 and pure DOS. Under XP it always crashes.

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« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2004, 05:57:46 pm »
I'm having trouble with the list generation.  It seems to be using the list: ./lists/mame3.xml which is nice, it has a list of a lot of games. But since I don't have most of those games on this drive that just won't work.

I'll try it as-is for the moment, just to see if I can get it to display.

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« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2004, 06:21:59 pm »
Nope.

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« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2004, 07:37:53 pm »
I'm building another version of the DOS version with a lot more debugging info, so I can pinpoint where it's crashing for you.

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« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2004, 07:45:50 pm »
That's good, because if it's running for you, and not for me...

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« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2004, 09:11:40 pm »
Peale, I'm posting another version of the ky_dos.exe file to my old site now. You can download it from http://www.pacmanfan.com/downloads/ky_dos.zip

It's got a bit more debug info in it. If you can run it, and then post the kymaera.log file, that would really help to figure out wha'ts going wrong. Thanks in advance.

The upload to pacmanfan.com should be done in about 5 minutes.

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« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2004, 07:54:20 am »
Here's a kicker...that one ran...ON WINDOWS XP.

Haven't tried it on the cabinet downstairs yet, that's the next step.

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« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2004, 08:52:45 am »
Just gave it a run...crashed.

The first time I tried running it, the log file had details about the arcade mode (320x240) but subsequent running didn't have those details.

kymaera.log:

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        0 : Log System initted
       10 : registering PNG
       10 : registering JPG
       15 : registering GIF
       20 : registering CD
       20 : registering JOYSTICK
       60 : setting app path
       65 : Calling startup
       65 : Current working directory is c:/kymaera\
       65 : sound start
       65 : Loading kymaera.kfg
       80 : Loading Emualtor config\mame.emu
       95 : EMU load 16 gamelist lists\mame3.xml
      100 : load gamelist lists\mame3.xml 1
      155 : EMU load 16 gamelist lists\favorite.xml
      160 : load gamelist lists\favorite.xml 1
      170 : EMU load 17
      170 : EMU load 18
      175 : EMU SetupEmulatorSpecific
      175 : EMU SetupCatagorySpecific
      175 : EMU SetupGameSpecific


Like I said before, it works fine in XP now.

And can you help me create a list?  It doesn't want to work for me on my end, I have no idea why.  Creates the master list, but doens't load that master.

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« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2004, 09:24:16 am »
One more thing: can you detail YOUR DOS box setup?  Memory managers, etc, please, so I can have a guideline.

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« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2004, 06:53:02 pm »
One more thing: can you detail YOUR DOS box setup?  Memory managers, etc, please, so I can have a guideline.

It's not really much of a DOS setup, It's a win98 drive that I've booted to DOS mode. It's got no autoexec.bat file and no config.sys file. Consequently, there is no sound on my DOS setup, but the DOS sound works under the Win98 command prompt.

You can safely delete the .nfo files and try running it again to see if it'll repeat the info about the arcade mode.

Based on the log file, I think I've narrowed down the problem to where Kymaera is setting up info to be displayed about the current game.

Try generating a game list for mame in Ky_cfg. After you generate a "Master" game list, you still need to load it. And remember to give the gamelists the ".xml" file extension. (I know, I should do it automatically)

Then, select all your games, and click the "Copy selected games from source to dest" button, then click the "Remove games not in Rom Dirs" button, and save out your gamelist, then add it as a game list to your emu setup.

Let me know how it goes, I'll try to figure out where it could be crashing in the SetupGameSpecific function.

Thanks agin for testing so much.

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« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2004, 10:03:28 pm »
It's not really much of a DOS setup, It's a win98 drive that I've booted to DOS mode. It's got no autoexec.bat file and no config.sys file. Consequently, there is no sound on my DOS setup, but the DOS sound works under the Win98 command prompt.

Of course it would; it's still basically Windows with a command prompt shell.

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You can safely delete the .nfo files and try running it again to see if it'll repeat the info about the arcade mode.

Will do.

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Based on the log file, I think I've narrowed down the problem to where Kymaera is setting up info to be displayed about the current game.

Try generating a game list for mame in Ky_cfg. After you generate a "Master" game list, you still need to load it. And remember to give the gamelists the ".xml" file extension. (I know, I should do it automatically)

Then, select all your games, and click the "Copy selected games from source to dest" button, then click the "Remove games not in Rom Dirs" button, and save out your gamelist, then add it as a game list to your emu setup.

I've loaded the master list after generating it, and it just sits there with no games in it.  You're talking about the output from -listxml, correct?

I can take the file 'mame3.xml' and parse that easily, but that seems to be a trimmed down version of the -listxml listing.  Not sure why it's not working.  I was able to get a good listing of the existing ROMs in the directory that way, but I think that I should be able to generate that on the fly, yes?

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Let me know how it goes, I'll try to figure out where it could be crashing in the SetupGameSpecific function.

Have you run it from pure DOS, or are you running it from a DOS prompt within Windows 98 each time?

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« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2004, 11:38:41 pm »

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I've loaded the master list after generating it, and it just sits there with no games in it.  You're talking about the output from -listxml, correct?

Not really, You need to click the "Create Master list" button on the Gamelist screen, and you can either specify the mame executable (click the checkbox if its a listxml only version), or the listinfo dat file, along with the catver.ini and gameplay.ini file to generate a master list.

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Have you run it from pure DOS, or are you running it from a DOS prompt within Windows 98 each time?

Well, In win98, I click start->shutdown->Restart in MSDOS mode, I also run it from a command prompt. I don't have any previous versions of DOS installed on a drive to test with. I thought the last version of DOS was the one distributed with Win98 in DOS Mode.

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« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2004, 12:55:07 am »

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I've loaded the master list after generating it, and it just sits there with no games in it.  You're talking about the output from -listxml, correct?

Not really, You need to click the "Create Master list" button on the Gamelist screen, and you can either specify the mame executable (click the checkbox if its a listxml only version), or the listinfo dat file, along with the catver.ini and gameplay.ini file to generate a master list.

Yup, I did all that.  Gives me nada.  Generates a file called 'listxml.xml' in the Kymaera root dir.  It's identical to the listinfo output.  Load it up with the 'load source games list' button, and there is *nada* *zip* *zilch* *squat* in the game list window.

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Well, In win98, I click start->shutdown->Restart in MSDOS mode, I also run it from a command prompt. I don't have any previous versions of DOS installed on a drive to test with. I thought the last version of DOS was the one distributed with Win98 in DOS Mode.

Hm...try running it bare.  When your system boots, hit 'F8' to bring up a menu.  Select 'command prompt' and try it from there.

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« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2004, 01:18:38 am »
Finally got it to generate a list.  I thought it would just generate a list based from listxml, but you need the 'catver.ini' file, which I didn't have previously.

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« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2004, 10:45:59 am »
Just tried it on another cab.  Same thing.

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« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2004, 02:50:16 pm »
I'll try running it from the F8 boot command prompt tonight. What's your setup look like? Maybe I can copy that and try.

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« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2004, 02:51:55 pm »
Not much to it.  Loades himem.sys, armon.sys in the config.sys, and then sound drivers in autoexec.bat.  Oh, and SciTech Display Doctor, which I've tried both on AND off.

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« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2004, 03:06:22 pm »
What's armon.sys? Try temporarily commenting out all of your config.sys and see if Kymaera runs.

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