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IQ vs Election Results
fredster:
Comments like this show the depth of Arrogance of these people. The "my way or the highway" mentality. Most won't even sit and talk about the issues. They just don't want to see the other side, but you have to see theirs. Argue with them and you are a bigot or an idiot or simply uneducated. They see only one side to any argument, theirs.
It also shows the lack of problem solving skills and outright oblivious disregard of reality. They show just exactly how little they can understand about communication.
I've seen it over and over in these threads. "There's not point in us talking if I can't change your mind" was in one or two. Say anything aginst affirmative action and you are a racist. Speak your views on Gays and Gay rights and you are a homophobe.
For "progressive" people it sure seems like they are intolerant of other ideas. Arrogant and isolated in thier own world I'd say. For people who profess free speech, they don't want to hear the differing opinion. After all, they think the source is so unlightened there is no way they can be correct, since they aren't one of them. Agree with them and they are your friend and protector. Disagree and you are the scum of the earth. No middle ground.
If the left wants to win, they have to learn how to lose. If they want to give orders, it's important to learn to take them. Learn from history, real history, not some "version of the truth" history.
This county by county map should tell them more than the IQ is lacking. It should tell them the vast majority of the people of the US supported President Bush. It should tell them that their message is wrong for everybody. It should tell them that people outside the beltway aren't buying what they want to sell. They have to understand why not rationalize away with self serving excuses.
There is a lot more they have to research in order to understand why they lost. Quit being arrogant and even bend and blend to what the vast majority of the US wants.
For every left there is a right. The truth is seldom on either end, but somewhere in the middle. When you shut off a discussion and turn it into a lecture, the class is over. You lose every time.
nipsmg:
--- Quote from: fredster on November 05, 2004, 09:16:07 pm ---Comments like this show the depth of Arrogance of these people. The "my way or the highway" mentality. Most won't even sit and talk about the issues. They just don't want to see the other side, but you have to see theirs. Argue with them and you are a bigot or an idiot or simply uneducated. They see only one side to any argument, theirs.
It also shows the lack of problem solving skills and outright oblivious disregard of reality. They show just exactly how little they can understand about communication.
I've seen it over and over in these threads. "There's not point in us talking if I can't change your mind" was in one or two. Say anything aginst affirmative action and you are a racist. Speak your views on Gays and Gay rights and you are a homophobe.
For "progressive" people it sure seems like they are intolerant of other ideas. Arrogant and isolated in thier own world I'd say. For people who profess free speech, they don't want to hear the differing opinion. After all, they think the source is so unlightened there is no way they can be correct, since they aren't one of them. Agree with them and they are your friend and protector. Disagree and you are the scum of the earth. No middle ground.
If the left wants to win, they have to learn how to lose. If they want to give orders, it's important to learn to take them. Learn from history, real history, not some "version of the truth" history.
This county by county map should tell them more than the IQ is lacking. It should tell them the vast majority of the people of the US supported President Bush. It should tell them that their message is wrong for everybody. It should tell them that people outside the beltway aren't buying what they want to sell. They have to understand why not rationalize away with self serving excuses.
There is a lot more they have to research in order to understand why they lost. Quit being arrogant and even bend and blend to what the vast majority of the US wants.
For every left there is a right. The truth is seldom on either end, but somewhere in the middle. When you shut off a discussion and turn it into a lecture, the class is over. You lose every time.
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Fredster,
You bring up good points.
However, let me again correct the misconception put forth in this statement:
"This county by county map should tell them more than the IQ is lacking. It should tell them the vast majority of the people of the US supported President Bush. "
The popular vote statistics show that Bush captured 51% of the popular vote. This is NOT a VAST majority. This map shows the counties where Bush won. That does not by any stretch of the imagination mean that a VAST MAJORITY of votes, even in these Bush-won counties were for Bush.
I'm attempting to make a factual statement here, not a biased political one. It's very dangerous to make assumptions on visual aids like this. It's results like this that cause many people to make uninformed decisions about very very serious issues.
--NipsMG
spocktwin:
;D Mr C. respectfully you don't get it. The majority voted for GW because we don't want or care about what the europeans think of us. I work with the French everyday and believe me if you really believe that they want the best for us please grow up. If that headline bothers you well Canada awaits! again respectfully
TA Pilot:
just thought it is interesting stats. you must admit, there is an obvious correlation between average IQ and who won the state
Yeahright.
Now, show us why we should believe the posted numbers are anywhere near correct. I mean, I can make up numbers, too.
Gotta love you liberals - "The country is too stupid to vote for us!"
And you wonder why you lost the election.
nipsmg:
--- Quote from: TA Pilot on November 05, 2004, 09:33:55 pm ---just thought it is interesting stats. you must admit, there is an obvious correlation between average IQ and who won the state
Yeahright.
Now, show us why we should believe the posted numbers are anywhere near correct. I mean, I can make up numbers, too.
Gotta love you liberals - "The country is too stupid to vote for us!"
And you wonder why you lost the election.
--- End quote ---
Even though me and TA Pilot are in COMPLETE AND UTTER DISAGREEMENT about nearly all of the issues we've been discussing, I've got to agree with him on the first part of his statement.
Go out and ask 100 people what their IQ is. I guarantee you that MAYBE 1 of them do. (And I don't mean from a cheezy online IQ test either). So MAYBE 1% of people know their IQ. Even if these stats were obtained by asking 100% of the people who KNEW their IQ for their score, it would still be a wholly inaccurate representation of IQ by state.
--NipsMG