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allroy1975:
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--- Quote from: TA Pilot on November 07, 2004, 04:13:49 pm ---Marriage isnt a right - its a privilege.
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Dang, and I thought it was a union under God. Sure glad the goverment can straighten that out. Can they get rid of a few of the commandments too? It would make things a lot more fun.
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If they could get rid of that whole "not stealing" thing, I'd sleep a lot better at night. Oh, who am I kidding....every program on my PC is legit. and those mp3s too! :D
Allroy
mahuti:
Marriage isn't a privelege. It is a right. Priveleges get revoked. Not rights. When's the last time you heard of someone losing the "privelege" of getting married.
As far as the marriage being a union under god, that CAN be true, but that isn't its purpose under the law. (course, I don't really understand why the state should decide what is and isn't a marriage... I guess it makes it easier to sort things out with familiy issues & with death.)
TA Pilot:
Dang, and I thought it was a union under God.
Silly you.
Marriage is a creature of the state. State laws define it. If there were no state laws to define it, it would not exist as a legal entity. Oh sure, you could still get 'married' in a church, but it would hold no -legal- weight.
Since it is a creature of the state, and would not ecist if not for the legal construct that created it, it is a privilige, not a right. Right, by definition, are not created by the state, they pre-exist it.
The reason no marriage has been revoked is because the current laws do not allow for such a thing. They very certainly could -- thus again, a privilige. not a right.
mahuti:
Marriage pre-existed the state.
TA Pilot:
--- Quote from: mahuti on November 07, 2004, 07:15:01 pm ---Marriage pre-existed the state.
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Yes - marriage before God. Anyone can have that anytime they want, with anyone they want, right now.
Marriage as a legal entity is another issue. Its an entity created by the state, defined in its laws.