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1UP:
BTW, *every* business passes their costs on to the consumer. Why did Playstations/XBoxes/Etc cost twice as much when they came out? Because they cost more to produce when the product was new.
Every time you manufacture something for the first time, there are setup costs. The smaller the production run, the more each unit costs because they all carry part of the setup, R&D, marketing, etc. You don't think you pay for advertising?
As time goes on, larger and larger runs of the product are produced. The manufacturing equipment starts to pay for itself. Advances in technology bring better prices on the components. Prices drop, and the company starts to make more money by sheer volume.
No matter how generous your casino's payout is, I guarantee most of those machines pay for themselves in a few months, if not weeks.
Someone who got ripped off there would probably storm out, swearing that the owner was making money hand over fist, for very little work (the machines run themselves, after all. ;) ) But there is also overhead, licenses, staff, taxes, upkeep on the machines, etc. So many things that the average gambler wouldn't think of.
That being said, I still think gambling is the biggest scam on the planet. Who ever thought of making people pay just to try and predict the outcome of a roll of the dice, or the number of times a mechanical reel turns over? What is really being sold is false hope, and gambling does very real damage to people's lives. I guess there's no moral problem there either....
SOAPboy:
--- Quote from: 1UP on October 31, 2004, 09:50:59 pm ---BTW, *every* business passes their costs on to the consumer. Why did Playstations/XBoxes/Etc cost twice as much when they came out? Because they cost more to produce when the product was new.
Every time you manufacture something for the first time, there are setup costs. The smaller the production run, the more each unit costs because they all carry part of the setup, R&D, marketing, etc. You don't think you pay for advertising?
As time goes on, larger and larger runs of the product are produced. The manufacturing equipment starts to pay for itself. Advances in technology bring better prices on the components. Prices drop, and the company starts to make more money by sheer volume.
No matter how generous your casino's payout is, I guarantee most of those machines pay for themselves in a few months, if not weeks.
Someone who got ripped off there would probably storm out, swearing that the owner was making money hand over fist, for very little work (the machines run themselves, after all. ;) ) But there is also overhead, licenses, staff, taxes, upkeep on the machines, etc. So many things that the average gambler wouldn't think of.
That being said, I still think gambling is the biggest scam on the planet. Who ever thought of making people pay just to try and predict the outcome of a roll of the dice, or the number of times a mechanical reel turns over? What is really being sold is false hope, and gambling does very real damage to people's lives. I guess there's no moral problem there either....
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and spending random money on other things dont cause damage to peoples lives? games dont? ect..
yes the ps2, xbox, ect all costs 300 when they came out.. they were also first gen, new hardware that wasent cheap to find or produce.. its older now and parts are cheaper to make, thus price dropping.. in fact, now, an xbox or ps2 costs MORE to make than they get sold for..
SOAPboy:
oh and paigeoliver get on yim
;D
shmokes:
Hey 1up,
Can you describe the mechanism you used for axle? I've been building a PacMamea inspired cab for more than a year (every time school starts work stops completely for the next five months). I'm getting really pretty close to completion, but I've been dying to find out how you manage the rotation of the CPs in your retail product.
1UP:
--- Quote from: SOAPboy on October 31, 2004, 09:57:22 pm ---and spending random money on other things dont cause damage to peoples lives? games dont? ect..
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No one believes that buying Grand Turismo 4 is going to make them millionaires. I've only been to Vegas a few times, but that gambling bug is a lot stronger than any impulse game-buying spree I've ever been on.
Anyway, I'm not trying to attack your family or anything, I'm just trying to prove a point. Everything costs much more than the materials and labor are worth. No business is exempt, or there would be no such thing as profit. Everything is only worth what people are willing to pay for it. Nuff said.
--- Quote ---yes the ps2, xbox, ect all costs 300 when they came out.. they were also first gen, new hardware that wasent cheap to find or produce.. its older now and parts are cheaper to make, thus price dropping.. in fact, now, an xbox or ps2 costs MORE to make than they get sold for..
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Ok, I picked a bad example. It is a well known fact that console manufacturers intentionally lose money on their hardware. The hardware is there to sell the software, where the real money is. So it all balances out.