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Overrated games
« on: October 27, 2004, 01:42:46 pm »
There must be games which everybody else seems to rave about but you just dont get it...

please share - but don't forget to put a hard hat on because there's bound to be flak comin your way!  ;D

OK...so here goes...mine is:

Battlezone

ok if your peering though a periscope in a darkened arcade in 1980 i suppose. But is it really worth installing topfire joysticks on your cab to play a game with such basic game play?
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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2004, 02:10:26 pm »
I'd say Space Invaders. I tried it again (when I got MAME) and I was baffled how much it actually ... well .. sucked.
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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2004, 02:44:16 pm »
a search for a battlezone machine is what brought me to mame, one of my favorite games.  when I built my cab, I didn't put topfires on.  I programmed my 2 eight ways for left forward and back, right forward and back.  to fire i push either stick to the center of the panel.

Street fighter I don't like.

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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2004, 02:53:41 pm »
I'd say Space Invaders. I tried it again (when I got MAME) and I was baffled how much it actually ... well .. sucked.

:o WHAT!!! :o

Seriously though, to each his own.  I personally think Space Invaders kicks ass, but then again I played it like crazy back on Atari so I've always been kinda hooked.

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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2004, 03:09:35 pm »
I'd say Space Invaders. I tried it again (when I got MAME) and I was baffled how much it actually ... well .. sucked.

:o WHAT!!! :o

Seriously though, to each his own.  I personally think Space Invaders kicks ass, but then again I played it like crazy back on Atari so I've always been kinda hooked.
But that's just it. I was a great fan when these cabs were around too, but now I tried it again and I couldn't see what I ever liked in it. Of course it has the charm and all, but the game itself didn't do anything for me anymore. I did still like Galaga though. For some reason that (almost similar game I guess) did keep it's fun for me.
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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2004, 03:36:39 pm »
Any Metal Slug game, god the boredom.

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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2004, 07:35:12 pm »
Any 3d fighter.  

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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2004, 08:27:50 pm »
except soul calibur

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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2004, 11:00:27 pm »
I'm not a big fan of RPGs...  It just seems so boring to me.  When I play a game I want to press a button and have the character instantly do what I demand, I don't want to go through a list of spells or attacks, select it and then watch the action!

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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2004, 11:16:58 pm »
Centipede.  It was always lame.  

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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2004, 11:41:03 pm »
except soul calibur

No no..INCLUDING soul calibur ;)

- Halo 1,2(meh...)
- Outrun2 *ducks*
- Pacman(so ghey..I cant go any further after level 3 wtf ???)
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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2004, 12:05:14 am »
I hate the ridiculous announcer in Soul Caliber 2.  Never played #1.
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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2004, 12:16:25 am »
Donkey Kong

I think of Donkey Kong like I think of Galaxian, it was a game that was massively popular because it defined a whole new genre. BUT it ended up being the worst game in the new genre it defined.
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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2004, 12:56:11 am »
hmmm, some harsh words there!! if RPG is role playing games (and not rocket propelled grenade) im with you, crashwg. im not sure if that includes those online things like everquest (i think its called). my housemate keeps telling me how amazing these games are- you can be anything!! even a courier or banker. wow. im gonna spend ten hours a day (like he does) online pretending to be something im not interested in doing in real life...

in fact, if he spent ten hours a day doing real life stuff, meeting people etc he mightn't have such a mundane existance. he could fly REAL airplanes, do REAL travelling etc...

with arcades, i could never get into the streetfighter type games. simpler fighters like robocop and asterix are fine (two buttons). but all those strange combo shots i could never get the hang of.

i cant say anything bad about old games like space invaders because back in its time, it was amazing. in the context of today, obviously not quite so captivating  ;)

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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2004, 06:19:25 am »

with arcades, i could never get into the streetfighter type games. simpler fighters like robocop and asterix are fine (two buttons). but all those strange combo shots i could never get the hang of.


You said it, Danny.  I hated playing in an arcade, trying to figure out the moves, and some 10-year old drops in a quarter and whips me in 5 seconds.  Blah!

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« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2004, 07:44:44 am »
Since I got my Neo Geo I have had a lot of fun with the fighting games, since neither me nor any of my friends know ANY of the moves. It comes out fair that way.
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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2004, 11:48:53 am »
hadn't thought of it that way!! bit like everyone dancing when they're drunk  :)

still, a 'street fighter' type game on my cocktail cab would be a bit silly anyway so it's academic i guess in my case...


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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2004, 12:21:12 pm »
i may be calling for death threats..but....

PACMAN/MRS. PACMAN!!!!

geez these games were so overrated.  i grew up in the 80's and played these games some, but i never saw the draw to them to keep playing over and over again.  i mean, whats the draw?  getting that extra cherry to boost your new high score?  yes there was strategy and all that, but i only have the pacman games on my cab for nostalgia.  i think ive played them maybe twice.  

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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2004, 12:30:43 pm »
I agree, Street Fighter games are all the same.  It's all button mashing in the hopes of getting combo... and when you get a combo, you spend the next couple of times figuring out how did I do that.

Space Invaders is a classic.  Back then, it was the best game ever, but when you compare to now, it's seems basic and boring.

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« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2004, 01:09:09 pm »
I agree, Street Fighter games are all the same.  It's all button mashing in the hopes of getting combo... and when you get a combo, you spend the next couple of times figuring out how did I do that.

Space Invaders is a classic.  Back then, it was the best game ever, but when you compare to now, it's seems basic and boring.
When you're not paying to play, a lot of games become boring.

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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2004, 01:18:24 pm »
I'd say Space Invaders. I tried it again (when I got MAME) and I was baffled how much it actually ... well .. sucked.

I'll agree...to a point.  On the original cabinet it's much cooler.  You've got the reflected image against the planet, which is lit by a blacklight.  It's still a *really* cool effect.  It does get boring quickly, though, because the gameplay never changes.

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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2004, 01:24:20 pm »
I would have to agree with all that voted on Fighting games. Guess these came out a little after my time in the arcades. Now my kids on the other hand, only play these type of games with their friends. When I show him one of my all time favorites "Asteroids", he yawns..."Geez Dad, thats soooo boring".

I guess we all have to remember the thrill in our days playing these wonderful (basic) games.

Now Tempest/Marble Madness games on the other hand (or any spinner/trackball games) require skill, unlike those Neo-Geo type games  :D (better crouch and put on the hard hate  :o
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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2004, 02:27:22 pm »
Heh, the funny thing, all the games mentioned here so far I play on a regular basis.....

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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2004, 02:33:12 pm »
I agree, Street Fighter games are all the same.  It's all button mashing in the hopes of getting combo... and when you get a combo, you spend the next couple of times figuring out how did I do that.

Space Invaders is a classic.  Back then, it was the best game ever, but when you compare to now, it's seems basic and boring.

maybe "street fighter" games, but i hope youre not talking about the entire 2d fighting genre cause Marvel vs Capcom 2 is a masterpiece
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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2004, 03:08:32 pm »
I agree, Street Fighter games are all the same.  It's all button mashing in the hopes of getting combo... and when you get a combo, you spend the next couple of times figuring out how did I do that.

Space Invaders is a classic.  Back then, it was the best game ever, but when you compare to now, it's seems basic and boring.

maybe "street fighter" games, but i hope youre not talking about the entire 2d fighting genre cause Marvel vs Capcom 2 is a masterpiece



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« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2004, 07:06:33 pm »
I tend to agree on the Street Fighter style games.  I played them some in the arcade but never got a good feel for them.  Didn't mind Street Fighter II for my SNES, though.

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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2004, 08:15:24 pm »
Battlezone
ok if your peering though a periscope in a darkened arcade in 1980 i suppose. But is it really worth installing topfire joysticks on your cab to play a game with such basic game play?

Yes, but then I've also got the periscope to complete the effect. ;)


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« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2004, 04:15:02 am »
am i the only one here that prefers Galaxians over Galaga?  :o

i can't remember ever seeing galaga in an arcade over here in the UK when I was a kid. Galaxians was the first and still is king!


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« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2004, 07:14:56 am »
I agree, Street Fighter games are all the same.  It's all button mashing in the hopes of getting combo... and when you get a combo, you spend the next couple of times figuring out how did I do that.
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« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2004, 08:42:31 pm »
am i the only one here that prefers Galaxians over Galaga?  :o

i can't remember ever seeing galaga in an arcade over here in the UK when I was a kid. Galaxians was the first and still is king!


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I also prefer Galaxians,  partly because of nostalgia, but also because the sound effects are better and it's harder.

Galaga does have more variety though.
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« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2004, 10:08:37 pm »
with arcades, i could never get into the streetfighter type games. simpler fighters like robocop and asterix are fine (two buttons). but all those strange combo shots i could never get the hang of.

I agree, Street Fighter games are all the same.  It's all button mashing in the hopes of getting combo... and when you get a combo, you spend the next couple of times figuring out how did I do that.

I tend to agree on the Street Fighter style games.  I played them some in the arcade but never got a good feel for them.  Didn't mind Street Fighter II for my SNES, though.

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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2004, 11:24:30 pm »
maybe "street fighter" games, but i hope youre not talking about the entire 2d fighting genre cause Marvel vs Capcom 2 is a masterpiece

Hate to say it, but  I just don't get the entire 2d fighting genre.  zzzzz.  I am sure it's my advanced 39 years, but the appeal alludes me.  

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« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2004, 12:14:03 am »
with arcades, i could never get into the streetfighter type games. simpler fighters like robocop and asterix are fine (two buttons). but all those strange combo shots i could never get the hang of.

I agree, Street Fighter games are all the same.  It's all button mashing in the hopes of getting combo... and when you get a combo, you spend the next couple of times figuring out how did I do that.

I tend to agree on the Street Fighter style games.  I played them some in the arcade but never got a good feel for them.  Didn't mind Street Fighter II for my SNES, though.

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was thinking of the same exact thing..

most people who dont like 2d fighters are button mashing noobs who cant grasp the games..


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« Reply #34 on: October 30, 2004, 05:26:18 am »
Most people who like 2d fighters are spoiled kids with no appreciation for the history of gaming.

Yes, there was a time when there were no PCs to play your games on.  At this time, I was WRITING my own games on a PDP-11 because you could not BUY games.

A class called "Introduction to computers" was not like, this is a mouse, this is where you click to open word...  It is where you learned Cobol, Fortran, and Pascal.  BASIC was considered a plaything.

You just don't appreciate what a great advancement Pong was.  Or how incredible it was the first time COLOR graphics were used in a game.

Street Fighter is not a new idea.  Chinese Hero and Yie Ar Kung Fu (sp?) are 2d fighters born in the 80s.  Street Fighter and the new generation of 2d fighters are just mindless buttom mashing rip-offs of classic titles, sprinkling in a few lame options to keep kids thinking something new was there.

Any of you out there consider yourselves a 2d fighting game master?  It didn't take you too long, did it?  It took over 25 years for someone (to date, only 1 PERSON) to master Pac Man.

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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2004, 07:15:58 am »
Most people who like 2d fighters are spoiled kids with no appreciation for the history of gaming.

Let me just stop you there^

Most spoiled little kids - care only for games that are 3d and "new" and place aesthetics very highly.

Heres what you read like...

An old fart who lost touch of gaming in the late 80's, and assumes an arrogance because he happened to be around at the dawn of gaming.
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« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2004, 07:28:12 am »
I'm glad you recognized my parody of this:

most people who dont like 2d fighters are button mashing noobs who cant grasp the games..


Now, what do you suppose this reads like?

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« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2004, 07:33:18 am »
I'm glad you recognized my parody of this:

most people who dont like 2d fighters are button mashing noobs who cant grasp the games..


Now, what do you suppose this reads like?

Put it this way, it has more truth in it then your first statement.

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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2004, 01:34:37 pm »
I'll say out of more recent games, Halo.

I lso don't find space invaders that fun.

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« Reply #39 on: October 31, 2004, 11:05:35 pm »
bear in mind most comments are from the perspective of the time the game came out. so to me, space invaders was cool (in its time) while streetfighter etc were lame (in ITS time).


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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #40 on: November 01, 2004, 03:33:51 am »
am i the only one here that prefers Galaxians over Galaga?  :o

i can't remember ever seeing galaga in an arcade over here in the UK when I was a kid. Galaxians was the first and still is king!


Mame Golden Tee - what a pile of poo!

I also prefer Galaxians,  partly because of nostalgia, but also because the sound effects are better and it's harder.

Galaga does have more variety though.

i cant remember seeing galaga back in the day either (in australia). yeah, the sounds of galaxians brings me right back (i even started a thread about galaxians bringing me back  :) )

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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #41 on: November 01, 2004, 08:48:43 am »
bear in mind most comments are from the perspective of the time the game came out. so to me, space invaders was cool (in its time) while streetfighter etc were lame (in ITS time).
Oh, I thought we were talking about how the games were seen now.
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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #42 on: November 01, 2004, 08:57:10 am »
bear in mind most comments are from the perspective of the time the game came out. so to me, space invaders was cool (in its time) while streetfighter etc were lame (in ITS time).
Oh, I thought we were talking about how the games were seen now.

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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2004, 01:16:30 pm »
Street Fighter 2 was lame in it's time, if you were a button smashing idiot.

I don't know how it was where you guys live, but street fighter 2 where I live was a different story. If you buttonmashed, you would have got your butt handed to you. Even today, 2-D fighters take 10 times more skill than any 3-D fighter. I remember these DOA heads that all got owned by a boy that learned he could just kartwheel all day long and won the national tourny.

So, I guess it depends on if you ever got to really *play* the game in the first place.




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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #44 on: November 20, 2004, 03:58:29 pm »
I hate to say this, but TRON.

The arcade TRON was 99% cabinet, 1% game.

That said, I'll still drop quarters into one whenever I see it.  ;)

Also Mortal Kombat was way overrated... and I am a big 2D fighter fan. I just can't see why anyone ever played that game over SFII or Samurai Shodown...

...maybe the blood and violence?  ???

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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #45 on: November 20, 2004, 04:19:39 pm »

Also Mortal Kombat was way overrated... and I am a big 2D fighter fan. I just can't see why anyone ever played that game over SFII or Samurai Shodown...

...maybe the blood and violence?  ???

There was lot of excitement over this game, the digitized graphics, the sound fx/music and of course the blood and fatalities. At the time I did enjoy MK but I still knew that SFII had better game mechanics and depth. That said Mortal Kombat is still a classic.

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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #46 on: November 20, 2004, 04:46:13 pm »
Yes, thankfully, the buttonsmashing idiots went "BLOOD COOL OMG" and went to MK. When I say 2-D fighter, MK is that last thing that comes to mind.

It doesn't make MK anymore less of a classic for what it did.: Make shockwaves, get awesome publicity, and introduce new ideas to fighters.Controls where to "stiff" for me, never could get into it much.
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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #47 on: November 20, 2004, 06:11:46 pm »
the most overated game, clearly ,especially when you read the mame.net forums has gotta be
Cruisin USA!!!
I swaer t god ill go to my death bed with that damn theme song stuck in my head (sings "Cruisinnnnnn), and all it was a rail driver.. it dint do anyting special or introduce any ground breaking game play elements..
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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2005, 12:25:55 am »
I don't like any of the fighting games.  If I must play one, I'll tolerate King of Fighters '98.

The Metal Slug seres bores me to tears.

Re: Space Invaders: I'm finding that the Atari 2600 version is more fun than the arcade version...

When I was a kid, I loved Starship I, Tail Gunner, SubRoc 3-D, and Star Fire. Without their special cabinets and controls, they're pretty boring.

I don't care for the shoot-em-ups where you end up with powerups that cause you to shoot fans or sheets of blasts with every button press.  If you can shoot more ammo at once than Xevious, I'm probably not interested.

I hear people raving about Ghosts N Goblins, but I can't see the fuss.

Crossbow and Cheyenne: Pretty boring without the rifle or crossbow.

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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #49 on: June 08, 2005, 12:29:55 am »
I hate to say this, but TRON.

The arcade TRON was 99% cabinet, 1% game.
Naw, a lot of it was theme, too. The problem is that the harder levels become a matter of praying, getting lucky or memorizing patterns.  There's no way to play the MCP Cone or Light Cycles intelligently after a few levels, although the grid bugs and the tanks are ONLY interesting at the higher levels.
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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #50 on: June 08, 2005, 12:32:35 am »
Oh, and this will get me in trouble, but as much as I loved to play Zaxxon, it was really seriousy overrated.  Remember the 3D first-person commercials for it?  Remember how disappointed you were when the game didn't look like that?
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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2005, 08:53:13 am »
Gotta say the Street Fighter series...not that I'm a "buttom mashing noob"...I just never enjoyed the game...opinions vary...
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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2005, 09:16:18 am »
Space Invaders is one of my all time favorites. I own an original cocktail version and it gets plenty of play time. It's sandwiched between an upright Neo-Geo and my MAME cabinet. It looks sort of lost and insignificant sitting there, yet it's almost without exception the first thing that's commented on when people enter my game room for the first time. "Oh wow, is that a real Space Invaders???".

And I'm not really a huge fan of one-on-one fighters, be they 2d or 3d. I do own several for the MVS, but they only get played if I have guests who express an interest in the genre.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2005, 09:17:45 am »
Street Fighter 3
All those bloody dancing, drumming and guitar playing games
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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2005, 09:49:23 am »

PS1 and PS2 for sure...

All of the fighting games.  The only one I ever really got into was Virtua Fighter, and that was just because it was the biggest early Saturn release and I had just dropped $400 on a Saturn.



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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #55 on: August 19, 2005, 09:51:16 am »
I agree with the Tron, but it had good points.

All that dragon's lair and Space Ace crap was a waste of cash IMHO.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #56 on: August 19, 2005, 09:56:58 am »

DL and SA were cash cows, though.  I remember there always being a crowd around those games, even when the ops charged a freakin' dollar to play it.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #57 on: August 19, 2005, 12:27:52 pm »
Yeah, and you played it like once.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #58 on: August 19, 2005, 12:34:32 pm »
As for 3d fighting games, I think the Street Fighter EX series and the Soul series (Soul Edge, Soul caliber, Soul Caliber 2) are all great. However, the Tekken series sucks and the Virtua Fighter series sucks even harder.

As for 2d fighters, I think SNK fighters are mostly overrated. The Street Fighter series is great, though.


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« Reply #59 on: August 19, 2005, 12:35:41 pm »
Yeah, and you played it like once.

Me, yeah, because I never had $1. 

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #60 on: August 19, 2005, 02:32:10 pm »
As a kid, I spend *hours* playing Scramble at the local grocery store.  After school, I'd ride over on my bike, break a few dollars into quarters and play and play and play... Just trying to get to the end.

And when I first found MAME, I loaded up scramble, and found ... well, suckage.

When you look back on it now, you can see that an awful lot of your childhood actually sucked... you just didn't know it at the time.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #61 on: August 19, 2005, 02:38:06 pm »

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #62 on: August 19, 2005, 04:10:43 pm »
my $.02:

Grand Theft Auto 3 is complete crap
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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #63 on: August 19, 2005, 04:33:51 pm »
I never got into GTA either.


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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #64 on: August 19, 2005, 05:05:45 pm »
my $0.02 cents of personal opinion.....

space invaders and some old games...
they're not as eye appealing... but to me, its still fun to play a game or 2...

other old games like robotron, and galaga... they're still addicting as hell.... haaa haaa....

as for TRON.... game play is just very so so.... but I still play it once in a while....

fighting games... they're not all button smashers... (at least some of them are not...) I do play some fighters, and my skill is limited... but 1 thing I can tell you... skill /timing is required... (just like those old games...) if you just smash buttons... you'll be kicked hard from behind....

as for metal slug.... I never played it in arcade, and when I play it in MAME, I just keep pumping credits, and it gets old VERY QUICKLY...
but then last time, I have a friend's cousin who came and play....
he uses 1 credit, and passed 3 levels without dying... and keep going... and I'm like.... hmmmm..... it is possible..... its not just sucking $$$.... so... I guess I don't know before..... games like metal slug and guarlet... without limiting credits... it just ruins the game play....

as for "my" overrated game...

I personally think its Dragon's Lair....
somehow, this game is about memorizing the sequence....
its fun to watch, but I don't really find it fun to play....
for most older machines, I'll pump quarters in if I see them....
but dragon's lair... I'll just watch..... and I'm too lazy to learn....
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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #65 on: August 19, 2005, 05:14:29 pm »
lets see:

the pac man series (how many were there!! and people say todays games are just rehashed!)
halo
far cry
the GTA series

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #66 on: August 19, 2005, 06:43:23 pm »
Halo. I've seen people in my school have these bizzare parties where they all get together and spend the entire night playing Halo. They think that your merit in life is determined by your killing skills in Halo.
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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #67 on: August 19, 2005, 08:16:24 pm »
HALO is top of the list! There is NOTHING Halo does that hasn't already been done and done better on a PC years ago.
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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #68 on: August 19, 2005, 09:26:49 pm »
Any Metal Slug game, god the boredom.

a space invaders fan ::)

if you keep pumping credits in the machine, you're going to get bored considering you get unlimited bombs and a new machine gun everytime you die.  imagine if you got a spread in space invaders that refilled everytime you continued.  try to beat any of those games on one credit, specifically metal slug 3.
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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #69 on: August 19, 2005, 09:28:40 pm »
I agree, Street Fighter games are all the same.  It's all button mashing in the hopes of getting combo... and when you get a combo, you spend the next couple of times figuring out how did I do that.

Space Invaders is a classic.  Back then, it was the best game ever, but when you compare to now, it's seems basic and boring.

maybe "street fighter" games, but i hope youre not talking about the entire 2d fighting genre cause Marvel vs Capcom 2 is a masterpiece

hate both those games...you can just kill someone if they forget to block.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #70 on: August 19, 2005, 09:34:19 pm »
mario kart 64, mario kart double dash, extreme g, chameleon twist, donkey kong 64...the 64 killed all of my favorite games

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #72 on: August 20, 2005, 01:08:14 am »
the only one i can think of right now is half-life for the pc ...i played that stupid game a few times(including cs) and man the controls are so damn slow/stiff
yet its the most played fps  ???

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #73 on: August 20, 2005, 02:02:08 am »
the only one i can think of right now is half-life for the pc ...i played that stupid game a few times(including cs) and man the controls are so damn slow/stiff
yet its the most played fps

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« Reply #74 on: August 20, 2005, 01:41:31 pm »
yes i'm very well aware of being able to remap controls, i played quake/ut/ut2kx for many years(more than i care to admit)....half-life however i never liked(no matter what control scheme/sensitivity level)

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #75 on: August 20, 2005, 02:28:24 pm »
yes i'm very well aware of being able to remap controls, i played quake/ut/ut2kx for many years(more than i care to admit)....half-life however i never liked(no matter what control scheme/sensitivity level)

Half Life feels slow because you probably played it AFTER it was first released. The speed of movement in FPS games increased in later games, like Unreal Tournament, then Quake, etc...

I agree, going BACK to Half Life, it feels slow now since we're so used to current games with running on by default.
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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #76 on: August 20, 2005, 09:07:00 pm »
yes i'm very well aware of being able to remap controls, i played quake/ut/ut2kx for many years(more than i care to admit)....half-life however i never liked(no matter what control scheme/sensitivity level)

Half Life feels slow because you probably played it AFTER it was first released. The speed of movement in FPS games increased in later games, like Unreal Tournament, then Quake, etc...

I agree, going BACK to Half Life, it feels slow now since we're so used to current games with running on by default.


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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #77 on: August 21, 2005, 11:04:07 pm »
Since I got my Neo Geo I have had a lot of fun with the fighting games, since neither me nor any of my friends know ANY of the moves. It comes out fair that way.
You didn't need to know any moves to excel on the original Street Fighter II. I was very rarely beaten in the arcades in the early 90's on that game using only two buttons (strong punch and kick). I could also beat the computer in single player mode off one quarter without using any special moves. I remember playing in the Bangor Mall "Space Port" arcade around '92 on SFII CE against a guy who was a good deal older than me (I was 17 and he was probably in his late 20's). He was one of those loud, physical, obnoxious players and he knew every move in the book. He seemed to be on the verge of [real] violence by the time he was getting near the end of $10 in quarters trying to beat me (he went to the changer twice for $5 worth of quarters). He was like, "Man, you suck! You don't even know any special moves! All you do is punch and kick! You do the same thing every time! This is is *beep* bull*beep*!

Since I got the hang of that game in the early 90's, I have never met anyone who could beat me on a consistent basis, whether in the arcade, on the SNES or in MAME. Since that time I learned how to do the "hadooken" fireball of Ryu's on a consistent basis and I use it occasionally, but I still mostly use punch and kick. My 14 year old nephew who is a whiz at these new Xbox and PS2 games (which I couldn't care less about) is determined to beat me on SFII. He's been at it for about 4 years now.

I didn't like what SFII and "fighters" in general evolved into; which is more a matter of manipulating controls to blindly pull off some fully automated, guaranteed damage, forty-eleven hit "combo". Where is the timing and skill behind that?

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #78 on: August 21, 2005, 11:11:59 pm »
Killer Instinct is all about combos, but you still have to know what you're doing to pull them off. I like the SF games, but KI is my favorite. However, since this a a thread about overrated games...

Speed Coin sucks to no end.


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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #79 on: August 21, 2005, 11:38:59 pm »
yes i'm very well aware of being able to remap controls, i played quake/ut/ut2kx for many years(more than i care to admit)....half-life however i never liked(no matter what control scheme/sensitivity level)

Theres your problem, as ray said.. speed.. you have been strafe jumping for how long? then went and played HL1 and couldnt get that same flow down, and its week slow speed turned you off.. :)

Q3A is one of the reasons i HATED how HL1 felt..

you and me should get down on some q3a sometime ;)

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« Reply #80 on: August 22, 2005, 12:05:37 am »
yes i'm very well aware of being able to remap controls, i played quake/ut/ut2kx for many years(more than i care to admit)....half-life however i never liked(no matter what control scheme/sensitivity level)

Theres your problem, as ray said.. speed.. you have been strafe jumping for how long? then went and played HL1 and couldnt get that same flow down, and its week slow speed turned you off.. :)

Q3A is one of the reasons i HATED how HL1 felt..

you and me should get down on some q3a sometime ;)

i'm down, but last time i tried to play q3a it seemed the master server was down?

direct ip would work  however.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #81 on: August 22, 2005, 12:15:17 am »
Killer Instinct is all about combos, but you still have to know what you're doing to pull them off. I like the SF games, but KI is my favorite. However, since this a a thread about overrated games...

Speed Coin sucks to no end.
Well you always have to know what you are doing for combos, since pulling them off by accident isn't something that will happen often, or can be counted on. I'm not into Joystick Gymnastics

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #82 on: August 22, 2005, 12:23:16 am »
Well KI combos are much more involved. I've never been a fan of the later Capcom fighting game combos, either. I make exception for SF EX combos, though. That whole series was alot better than most people give it credit for. In KI, there are pretty specific times to start combos and you have to know your "linkers". Plus, if you're good you can actually break a KI combo in the middle if the person pulling it off gets sloppy or takes too long.

... and since this a thread for over-rated games, 1942 just isn't as much fun after you've been playing Aero Fighters for a while.

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« Reply #83 on: August 22, 2005, 12:40:22 am »
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Yeah, I was talking about the later Capcom fighting games, since those were what turned me off on the whole fighting game genre in the first place. I've never actually played Killer Instinct so I can't really comment on it, though I don't like the look, feel or mechanics of 3D fighting games in general.

Oh, and for over-rated games I'll go with "Rampage". That is a pointless, skilless quarter sucker if I ever saw one, and people were just lining up to play it in the late 80's at the arcade I went to. As far as I can tell, there is really no way to avoid damage in that game, as the enemy fire comes down like rain. They could remove the enemy fire and just give you a PC10-style time limit on the game per quarter and it would accomplish the same thing.
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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #84 on: August 22, 2005, 12:48:20 am »
KI is 2D. It's just done by Rare (the same people who did the Donkey Kong Country series of games on SNES). They made 2D graphics look 3D-ish. It's how they first got famous.


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« Reply #85 on: August 22, 2005, 12:50:10 am »
yes i'm very well aware of being able to remap controls, i played quake/ut/ut2kx for many years(more than i care to admit)....half-life however i never liked(no matter what control scheme/sensitivity level)

Theres your problem, as ray said.. speed.. you have been strafe jumping for how long? then went and played HL1 and couldnt get that same flow down, and its week slow speed turned you off.. :)

Q3A is one of the reasons i HATED how HL1 felt..

you and me should get down on some q3a sometime ;)

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« Reply #86 on: August 22, 2005, 07:59:04 am »
hey max you should see if you can beat everyone on this.   www.zbattle.net  they play sf2turbo mostly

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« Reply #87 on: August 22, 2005, 09:33:57 am »
Since I got the hang of that game in the early 90's, I have never met anyone who could beat me on a consistent basis, whether in the arcade, on the SNES or in MAME. Since that time I learned how to do the "hadooken" fireball of Ryu's on a consistent basis and I use it occasionally, but I still mostly use punch and kick. My 14 year old nephew who is a whiz at these new Xbox and PS2 games (which I couldn't care less about) is determined to beat me on SFII. He's been at it for about 4 years now.

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« Reply #88 on: August 22, 2005, 07:06:44 pm »
hey max you should see if you can beat everyone on this.

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« Reply #90 on: August 22, 2005, 08:00:49 pm »
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« Reply #91 on: August 22, 2005, 08:05:32 pm »
there isn't lag there...didn't really like world warrior because of the physics

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« Reply #92 on: August 22, 2005, 08:25:27 pm »
there isn't lag there...didn't really like world warrior because of the physics

I just took a look at the site. It is for use with ZSNES, huh? That's interesting. SFII on SNES (I bought an SNES when they came out specifically for that game) was an excellent port, especially when it was the only way to play it at home (well, Genesis too but I didn't care for that version) but it is pretty disappointing now when you can use MAME for the real ROM.

Even so, I may give that a try, but I don't see how there wouldn't be any lag; though I suppose ZNES would be dealing with less information than MAME.

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« Reply #93 on: August 22, 2005, 09:12:31 pm »
well it doesn't predict the moves like fps games do, so you're going to encounter a delay between .1-.2 seconds, but that's less than most reaction times so it's meaningless once you're used to the game.  people have been fighting to use the netplay technology of zsnes in things like kaillera but no one can figure out.

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« Reply #94 on: August 22, 2005, 09:40:16 pm »
there isn't lag there...didn't really like world warrior because of the physics

I just took a look at the site. It is for use with ZSNES, huh? That's interesting. SFII on SNES (I bought an SNES when they came out specifically for that game) was an excellent port, especially when it was the only way to play it at home (well, Genesis too but I didn't care for that version) but it is pretty disappointing now when you can use MAME for the real ROM.

Even so, I may give that a try, but I don't see how there wouldn't be any lag; though I suppose ZNES would be dealing with less information than MAME.

Theres still a hint of lag.. if your a huge online gamer, youll notice it a little, but the fights are still "CLOSE" to being totally fair..

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« Reply #95 on: August 22, 2005, 11:01:20 pm »
well it doesn't predict the moves like fps games do, so you're going to encounter a delay between .1-.2 seconds, but that's less than most reaction times so it's meaningless once you're used to the game.

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« Reply #96 on: October 12, 2006, 03:14:23 am »
I was very rarely beaten in the arcades in the early 90's on that game using only two buttons (strong punch and kick). I could also beat the computer in single player mode off one quarter without using any special moves.

I find this difficult to believe.  The game is more balanced than that.  You cannot beat that game on one quarter using only strong punch and strong kick.  There are characters, particularly the four bosses, who will eat your lunch if you cannot parry their attacks, and it takes more than two buttons to parry the various attacks.


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« Reply #97 on: October 12, 2006, 07:53:24 am »
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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #98 on: October 12, 2006, 03:24:42 pm »
Halo one wasnt overrated when it first can out was it?  i know halo 2 was and still is.

i think halo ce was one of the only good games on xbox on release that and coop and mulitplayer was fun.  kinda like the orig doom only with 2 weapons.

ive had a 16 player game twice (halo ce then halo2)  it was alright but 4 on 4 is way better and this was in a lan setting.

then one time my friends and i had senior cut day and we stayed up from 4pm to 7pm playing games.  some halo ce, halo 2, then it was smash bros melee tourny and mario kart double dash.  i guess it is good for fps people becuase you dont need 16 computers only 4 xboxes and tvs.

but i remember i could play halo ce single player over and over and it was always fun.  halo 2 comes and suddenly i cant stand replaying either.

just me or is ce more skill than 2?

recently ive been playing doom online with zdaemon coop and its great.
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« Reply #99 on: October 13, 2006, 12:05:48 am »
I think Halo 1 was much better, feelwise, and gameplay. Halo 2 lost the intensity, discovery, and space cowboy feel.

Legendary on Halo 2 is stupid, less skill, more luck. The new character is cool, but I'd rather be the crazy space cowboy (master chief) .
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« Reply #100 on: October 13, 2006, 10:38:54 am »
I like Ikaruga but I feel let-down because it was so freggin over-hyped.
And PSX was always a bad console. I bought 1 for the tenchu games, thats about it. Everything looks like jumbled pixels with no sense of depth.

Someone said SNK games are over-rated, which I find odd because I never even heard about SNK games until I was in my 20's. I love their stuff, but I never heard anything about them at all, had to find em myself.

I still like Space Invaders and the Star Wars game that looks like Space Invaders though, classics FTW.

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« Reply #101 on: October 13, 2006, 10:44:01 am »
I have always thought that the big cinematic final fantasy games are overrated. They are pretty during the cut scenes, but damn it is boring. I gave FF10 a chance, but only got 2-3 hours in before I gave up.

They should just put out a movie for all the work they put into it.

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« Reply #102 on: October 14, 2006, 10:01:11 am »
Heh heh, they did. FF7 - Advent Children - on DVD now.
I know whatcha mean though, there are an awful lot of people that hate over-cinematic games, they always say "if I wanted to watch movies, I wouldn't be trying to play a game, dangit!".

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« Reply #103 on: October 15, 2006, 01:59:52 am »
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« Reply #104 on: October 15, 2006, 01:56:27 pm »
DDR and all its variations.  Just outstandingly dumb.

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« Reply #105 on: October 16, 2006, 02:13:22 pm »
I was very rarely beaten in the arcades in the early 90's on that game using only two buttons (strong punch and kick). I could also beat the computer in single player mode off one quarter without using any special moves.

I find this difficult to believe.  The game is more balanced than that.  You cannot beat that game on one quarter using only strong punch and strong kick.  There are characters, particularly the four bosses, who will eat your lunch if you cannot parry their attacks, and it takes more than two buttons to parry the various attacks.


Based on the timeline given (early 90's) I'm assuming that SFII is being talked about (no parries, no tech hits, nada).  The games are set up with default difficulties, and easy is well, extremely easy.  I could see being able to beat the machine on easy without using special moves, especially since each character had only about 3 special moves each. 

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #106 on: October 16, 2006, 02:22:01 pm »

Any GTA game. 

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« Reply #107 on: October 16, 2006, 02:36:40 pm »
I second that. Definitely any GTA game, or clone for that matter.

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« Reply #108 on: October 16, 2006, 02:51:18 pm »
DDR and all its variations.  Just outstandingly dumb.

Definitely the stupidest thing to happen to video games EVER.

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« Reply #109 on: October 16, 2006, 02:53:35 pm »

I kind of like it when I can play by myself without a line of 45 teenagers all fuming because some old dude is playing a single foot song.

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« Reply #110 on: October 16, 2006, 04:17:06 pm »
DDR and all its variations.  Just outstandingly dumb.

Apparently you've never had a group of not-so-coordinated friends over and played this game. Comedy Gold I tell ya'.  ;D

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« Reply #111 on: October 16, 2006, 08:32:48 pm »
Anything with the terms "auto," "grand," and "theft" all in the title.

Halo is the only xbox game I've ever played, and it's a blast.

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« Reply #112 on: October 17, 2006, 12:46:18 am »
grand theft auto series, and Halo's. both overrated.

these days, i think shooting games and driving games are extremely overrated in arcades...
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« Reply #113 on: October 17, 2006, 07:25:23 am »
Anything with the terms "auto," "grand," and "theft" all in the title.

Halo is the only xbox game I've ever played, and it's a blast.

FFs are my babies.  I do play for the stories.  It's like reading a really good book.  And I hate reading books.  Weird, huh?

Hmmm...you have the patience to hit the "x" button over and over for 100 hours to get the story of a game, but you can't stand the thought of investing a few hours into a book to get some of the greatest stories ever told.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #114 on: October 17, 2006, 10:01:34 am »
I kinda liked GTA. It's probably the only game I really played on my Playstation while I had it. Although I have to admit I didn;t really play it, I was just messign around racing through town. Driver is perhaps a better racing/crashing game, but it didn't allow me to drive around for longer so it gets too repetitive.
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Never finished it all the way through, but I still agree. Right up there with the great Punch Out.

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* Most people and their kids can beat a lot of N64 games.
* Some of your friends can beat SNES games.
* Hardly anyone you know can beat more than a couple of NES games.

I understand part of this to be that some NES games were REALLY long, but still...
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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #116 on: October 17, 2006, 10:29:08 am »

Depends on the age of the person.  I can, and many of my friends can, beat a lot of NES games.  And the ones I cannot beat are mostly because I just haven't played them much.

People who were early teens in the NES era can beat NES games easily.

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« Reply #117 on: October 17, 2006, 10:56:53 am »
I can beat the NES games that I owned when that console was current. I pretty much did nothing but sleep and play NES in those days.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #118 on: October 17, 2006, 10:59:17 am »

We were similar... we'd go out, play some sport in the Parker Bros parking lot, then come inside and play NES all night.

When Zelda came out me and my best friend stayed home from school that whole week.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #119 on: October 17, 2006, 11:11:24 am »
When I got Megaman, a friend of mine and I did nothing but tag team it. He'd play while I was sleeping, I'd play while he was sleeping. There was no save at all, so we had to leave the NES running so we didn't lose our progress.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #120 on: October 17, 2006, 11:16:24 am »
I knew two different people back in the NES days that were gaming gods in my eyes. Either one of them could beat pretty much any game either without dying, or dying very little. I remember the one girl (yes, I said girl) rented Robin Hood for nes one weekend. After figuring out how the game worked, we all sat and watched her play the game thru without dying.
The other guy was a friend of mine's brother. He was a major Battletech  player, 'nuff said.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #121 on: October 17, 2006, 11:28:49 am »

And the staple games, pretty much any kid could beat them.  It was a point of shame to be unable to beat Super Mario Bros.  The better players could beat it quickly with all of the warp points.  The best ones could beat it the long way without dying once.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #122 on: October 17, 2006, 11:39:15 am »

And the staple games, pretty much any kid could beat them.  It was a point of shame to be unable to beat Super Mario Bros.  The better players could beat it quickly with all of the warp points.  The best ones could beat it the long way without dying once.

I'll show how brave I am............








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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #123 on: October 17, 2006, 11:58:01 am »
The GTA games are NOT overrated. San Andreas is a shining example of excellent story telling in games as well as game design.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #124 on: October 17, 2006, 12:11:23 pm »
I never beat SMB either. Didn't have it. I did beat SMB2 & SMB3 though. I can still walk right through those two.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #125 on: October 17, 2006, 12:14:58 pm »
I never beat SMB either. Didn't have it. I did beat SMB2 & SMB3 though. I can still walk right through those two.

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That's what is so neat about emulators and the save function. You can go back now and beat those games that irritated the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- out of you back in the day.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #126 on: October 17, 2006, 12:20:12 pm »

Save states aren't beating the game.  They are only finishing it.

And emulators just make the game harder with a nonstandard controller and tweaky play.


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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #127 on: October 17, 2006, 12:24:17 pm »

Save states aren't beating the game.  They are only finishing it.

And emulators just make the game harder with a nonstandard controller and tweaky play.



Say what you will, but I beat that mofo Mike Tyson DOWN!!! ;D ;D :laugh2: :laugh2:

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #128 on: October 17, 2006, 12:26:06 pm »

Bah.  I used to be able to go all the way from Glass Joe to beating Tyson without getting knocked down once.  Probably could again with a bit of practice, haven't played that game in years.

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« Reply #129 on: October 17, 2006, 12:38:27 pm »

Bah.  I used to be able to go all the way from Glass Joe to beating Tyson without getting knocked down once.  Probably could again with a bit of practice, haven't played that game in years.

What, do you want a cookie or something?  :lame:

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #130 on: October 17, 2006, 12:51:23 pm »

I would like a cookie, yes.  That would be good.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #131 on: October 17, 2006, 09:30:50 pm »
Well then you guys are just good. I still can't beat Contra without the Konami Code. And when I was a kid I had to use Game Genie on anything to beat it. I was probably 7 or younger. I see that pattern though, the little kids I see usually want cheats too cuz they don't understand how playing for real is rewarding yet. My nephew kills himself as soon as he runs out of bombs and just keeps bombing, dying, and coining on all my mame shooters.

And yeah, I remember trying to leave the NES on all the time so I wouldn't lose my spot. But when we got home that night Tail Spin was froze up.

I also for some reason couldn't figure out how to save games right so I was always wipping out my borther's zelda saves. Mom got really good at zelda and would earn their spots back in the game after I kept reset em.

Don't know about bad game lag and controls, I like my panel just fine for punch out and with some of the good emulators out now you can smooth the pixels out if you want and punch out will look as smooth as a shockwave flash game.

O yeah, and here - *cookie*. Don't let em knock you down! Mash the pad and buttons to get up!

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #132 on: October 17, 2006, 11:12:14 pm »

Bah.  I used to be able to go all the way from Glass Joe to beating Tyson without getting knocked down once.  Probably could again with a bit of practice, haven't played that game in years.

What, do you want a cookie or something?  :lame:

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #133 on: October 17, 2006, 11:29:44 pm »

Bah.  I used to be able to go all the way from Glass Joe to beating Tyson without getting knocked down once.  Probably could again with a bit of practice, haven't played that game in years.

This was me too.  I owned Mike Tyson's Punchout (I mean that figuratively and literally, I suppose).  I TKO'd Super Macho Man  the first time I'd ever played, or even seen him -- mighta been in the first round, but I don't remember that.  I could TKO Tyson in round 2.

Weird thing, though, I've played it some on the emulator on my Xbox recently and I can't figure out Sandman for the life of me.  I don't know if the timing is off on the emulator or if Sandman is seriously NOT like riding a bike.  I breezed past everybody, remembering most the tricks and patterns, 'till I hit him and I couldn't beat him.  I can still beat Tyson, but I did forget how to counter his little blink-jab thing he does, especially when he does it like fifteen times in a row at the beginning of Round 2.  Actually, now that I say that I think it suddenly hit me that you're supposed to block once, dodge once, block once, dodge once, etc.  I'll have to try that.
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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #134 on: October 18, 2006, 08:46:39 am »

You can't emulate MT Punchout.  It just doesn't work, the timing has to be so dead on perfect, the controller perfectly responsive, or you can't beat the game.  I tried this game on the DC emu last year, couldn't get close to beating it.  Tried on a PC emu, got further but the timing was still off.  This is why I don't like emulators for the really hard games.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #135 on: October 18, 2006, 01:00:56 pm »

You can't emulate MT Punchout.  It just doesn't work, the timing has to be so dead on perfect, the controller perfectly responsive, or you can't beat the game.  I tried this game on the DC emu last year, couldn't get close to beating it.  Tried on a PC emu, got further but the timing was still off.  This is why I don't like emulators for the really hard games.

I use fceu and MY punchout works great.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #136 on: October 19, 2006, 08:41:27 am »

Can you beat it without save states?  That's the only way to reliably measure that, IMO.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #137 on: October 19, 2006, 08:44:58 am »
I could reach Mike tyson back in the day, but I never actually beat him. Of course I used save points to beat him on the emulator. It was a closure thing... ;)

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #138 on: October 19, 2006, 12:48:10 pm »
I can get as far as I could back then. Which isn't saying much, I still can't get past Bald Bull. No save states. And Tyson...sheesh that guy was near impossible. My brother still has the password memorized to go straight to him.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #139 on: October 19, 2006, 01:09:59 pm »
007 363 5963

That's from memory.  I think that's it's right.  The only code I've possibly entered more is the Contra one.  And maybe Justin Bailey.
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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #140 on: October 19, 2006, 01:28:08 pm »

My foggy memory tells me its the right format and at least very close.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #141 on: October 20, 2006, 09:07:01 pm »
Yeah I think thats preatty close if not right.

I forgot about Justin Bailey! I put that on the cab when I'm working sometimes cuz I like the intro song a lot still.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #142 on: October 21, 2006, 02:52:48 am »
I remember one time I got out Mike Tysons punchout after a long hiatus. I got to King Hippo and had forgot the trick to beating him. Wow I got sooo pissed until I finally remembered....then I just felt like a  :tool:. ;D

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #143 on: October 21, 2006, 08:49:08 am »
The GTA games are NOT overrated. San Andreas is a shining example of excellent story telling in games as well as game design.

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GTA Vice City is a fantastic game.  I love it in that you can either follow the story or just go about randomly killing, er, exploring.   8)

I can't get into San Andreas, tho.  WAAAAAY to "thug" for me.  Vice was cool - Italian guy, Mafia, set in the 80's, etc.  San Andreas had the ghetto thing going and I pretty much hate that crap so it killed the game for me.  :(

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #144 on: October 26, 2006, 04:05:20 pm »
The GTA games are NOT overrated. San Andreas is a shining example of excellent story telling in games as well as game design.

---daisies---!



GTA Vice City is a fantastic game.  I love it in that you can either follow the story or just go about randomly killing, er, exploring.   8)

I can't get into San Andreas, tho.  WAAAAAY to "thug" for me.  Vice was cool - Italian guy, Mafia, set in the 80's, etc.  San Andreas had the ghetto thing going and I pretty much hate that crap so it killed the game for me.  :(
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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #145 on: October 26, 2006, 04:39:43 pm »
That's too bad.  San Andreas is a superior game, overall.  You should give it another chance.  The writing and scenarios, the locations, the characters, the vehicles.  It just outdoes Vice City in every way.  Vice City was absolutely brilliant too.  But you're missing out on something incredible if you don't give it another shot.  Trust me, it won't take long before you're sucked in and engrossed by the story.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #146 on: October 27, 2006, 09:33:13 am »
Well the other part is I like to wait till stuff drops to the $20 and below region. I probably will play it latter, but you can't deny that disliking the whole theme of the game is a valid reason to not like it.

And it always seems like GTA is like Windows, they upgrade 5 things and tell you its a brand new system. What did VC add besides much smoother graphics and helicopters? Not much, but I still like the theme and plot line better. And I don't just drive around, so the plot is important. No Thug Loving is a good thing.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #147 on: October 27, 2006, 10:19:49 pm »
oPOEN UP MAME AND PICK A GAME, ANY GOAME...baam!!!!! OVERrATEd!!!!!!1 :laugh2: :soapbox: :spam: :tool: :timebomb: :dunno

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #148 on: October 28, 2006, 03:33:10 pm »
I just hate it when I setup mame for somebody and they don't listen AT ALL.
They just keep trying to make it run Tech Romancer or some other 3d whatsit and everytime I have to explain that mame is a 2d engine.

Or after they get me to setup an awesome front-end for them, they delete it the next week.
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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #149 on: April 10, 2007, 01:49:48 am »
I remember buying myst not too long after it came out when I was probably too young to truly enjoy it.  I was too into street fighter and fast paced action games.

But a couple years ago I played it all the way through and loved it.  The puzzles were great.  I just wasn't ready to play a game I had to think about when I was younger.  Now I'm working through the other myst games.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #150 on: April 10, 2007, 02:38:07 am »
It's probably a little late to bring this up, but for those who talked about disliking GTA: San Andreas because of the gang-banger theme (but liked previoius GTA games), it's worth noting that the game parodies gang bangers.  The writing is hilarious, and half of the comedy is the way gang banging is portrayed.  Again, give the game another shot.  You won't be disappointed.
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« Reply #151 on: April 10, 2007, 06:30:38 am »
San Andreas is a great game! I like it that you can go everywhere and do almost everything... I could play it for hours on my xbox.
Actually.. I like most free roaming games ^^

A game that I didn't like.. hmm.  I think that would be Space Invaders.
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« Reply #152 on: April 10, 2007, 11:30:57 am »
What may be considered overrated to some may be gaming nirvana to another. I remember this teenage girl who used to play Pooyan all the time and the enjoyment on her face spoke volumes. However, I didn't like the game very much myself. It's like food, I loath liver and others can't get enough of it. The same thing applies here and really boils down to personal gaming preferences.
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« Reply #153 on: April 10, 2007, 11:33:34 am »

Now she spends her time playing poonani.

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #155 on: December 31, 2007, 12:06:49 am »
007 363 5963

That's from memory.  I think that's it's right.  The only code I've possibly entered more is the Contra one.  And maybe Justin Bailey.

Hate to bring up an old thread, but I had to comment on this one. 

You are sooooooooooooooo close with the password.  I believe it's actually 007 373 5963.  I only remember because it was the only way I could get to Mike Tyson so he could knock me the ---fudgesicle--- out in the first round.  Playing all the way through, the second comming of Don Flamenco would always stop me.  Mike Tyson just always beat the crap out of me.  I was happy to just survive past the first 90 seconds so that he would stop using the "one punch and you're down" punches.  Instead, he'd use the "two punches and you're down" crap.   :hissy:
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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #156 on: December 31, 2007, 12:34:41 am »
Heh . . . funny thing is I have the game on Virtual Console now and I put the code in right the first time I tried.  Muscle memory.  I can put in the whole code in like five seconds.  I didn't even remember this thread.  If I'd been holding a controller in my hands when I wrote that post I'm sure I would have got it right.   ;D
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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #157 on: December 31, 2007, 07:12:58 am »
assasins creed - complete snooze fest

gears of war - its an "OK" game but NOT a 9/10 for sure. multiplayer is random as hell..its like they make it random on purpose for retarded kids to play online or something. single player is wayyyyy too short and boring too

 

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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #158 on: December 31, 2007, 07:21:51 am »
I was very rarely beaten in the arcades in the early 90's on that game using only two buttons (strong punch and kick). I could also beat the computer in single player mode off one quarter without using any special moves.

I find this difficult to believe.  The game is more balanced than that.  You cannot beat that game on one quarter using only strong punch and strong kick.  There are characters, particularly the four bosses, who will eat your lunch if you cannot parry their attacks, and it takes more than two buttons to parry the various attacks.


 ;D Sorry about the resurrection.  I liked to this thread from the various controllers thread and I'd never read it before.

Just for the record, I meant "fierce" rather than "strong". At the time I made that post I hadn't played on a real SFII machine in years and had forgotten what the button labels said. I always used the punch and kick that were the most powerful, but also the slowest (fierce and roundhouse).

Also, I was talking about the CPS-1 Street Fighter games (WW, CE, and HF). As such, there is no such thing as "parrying" in those games. And yes, they are very beatable on one credit using only those two buttons.

I have an SFII: WW machine these days, set on the hardest difficulty setting via the dipswitches, and I beat it every time I play on one credit using only those two buttons, same as I used to do in the early 90's at the arcade; and same as I used to do on the SNES port on the hardest difficulty level back then as well.

The only time I ever use any of the other buttons is when I want to change the speed of a "Hadoken" (fireball), which isn't all that often, neither is it something I need to do to beat the game on one credit. In fact, I can beat the game on one credit using just those two buttons and no special moves at all. If I had to, I could beat it with just the "roundhouse" kick and nothing else.
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Re:Overrated games
« Reply #159 on: January 02, 2008, 05:53:51 pm »
am i the only one here that prefers Galaxians over Galaga?  :o

i can't remember ever seeing galaga in an arcade over here in the UK when I was a kid. Galaxians was the first and still is king!


Mame Golden Tee - what a pile of poo!

I also prefer Galaxians,  partly because of nostalgia, but also because the sound effects are better and it's harder.

Galaga does have more variety though.
Yes, yes, I'd take Galaxian over Galaga ANY time !!!!
Galaga has GAY, Pac-like sounds !!!
But even more annoying is the strange, wacky, wobbly way the aliens move. Are they all drunk or what ??

GALAXIAN RULES ! :D

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #160 on: January 02, 2008, 06:34:58 pm »
Counter Strike or any of the other hundreds of 'realistic war sim' FPS games.  Real, fast paced FPS games like the Quakes and Unreal Tournaments are a dying breed these days.   :'(

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Re: Overrated games
« Reply #161 on: January 02, 2008, 08:04:58 pm »
gears of war - its an "OK" game but NOT a 9/10 for sure. multiplayer is random as hell..its like they make it random on purpose for retarded kids to play online or something. single player is wayyyyy too short and boring too

   It is barely an "ok" game.  While I could list several major flaws with that game, the worst is that it is boring.  Maybe it brought something new and exciting to console games, but it isn't a good PC game.


Counter Strike or any of the other hundreds of 'realistic war sim' FPS games.  Real, fast paced FPS games like the Quakes and Unreal Tournaments are a dying breed these days.   :'(

  I agree with you.  While I actually enjoy Counter Strike, I would choose UT over it anyday. 

  There does seem to be less and less fast paced shooters.  In fact, I recently started playing Duke 3D again. Last week, my friends and I even managed to get it working in XP and we played several deathmatches.

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