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Lost: 380 tons of high explosives - Last seen in Iraq
TA Pilot:
I think Drew took care of pretty much what needed to be taken care of.
Never mind that we have pictures of Iraqi trucks at the site on March 17 2003:
This reconaissance picture, released yesterday, shows two trucks parked outside one of the 56 bunkers of the Al Qa Qaa Explosive Storage Complex on March 17, 2003, prior to the U.S. invasion of Iraq.
(AP)
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041028-115519-3700r.htm
At this point, you people think the explosives were taken after we got there because you WANT to, not because there is any reason to.
patrickl:
but then there are the videoimages taken on site that the barrels were still there on April 18th. Now who is denying the truth?
Wouldn't it be a normal thing to get the ammunition from the depots just prior to an invasion? It strikes me as kinda lame that the pentagon doesn't say that these trucks are in front of the bunkers with the High Explosives. Isn't that something thats highly important? If not all you can say is that there were some trucks loading some stuff.
TA Pilot:
but then there are the videoimages taken on site that the barrels were still there on April 18th. Now who is denying the truth?
the truth... that there were barrels there marked "explosive"?
Are there explosives other than RMX and HMX? Yes?
So what do the videos prove?
Wouldn't it be a normal thing to get the ammunition from the depots just prior to an invasion?
Indeed.
And if these explosives are SO valuable that the Iraqis were willing to try to get them after the facility was overrun, why would they NOT pull them out before the war?
At this point, you people think the explosives were taken after we got there because you WANT to, not because there is any reason to.
patrickl:
--- Quote from: TA Pilot on October 29, 2004, 09:04:41 am ---but then there are the videoimages taken on site that the barrels were still there on April 18th. Now who is denying the truth?
the truth... that there were barrels there marked "explosive"?
Are there explosives other than RMX and HMX? Yes?
So what do the videos prove?
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Experts who have studied the images say the barrels on the tape contain the high explosive HMX, and the U.N. markings on the barrels are clear.
The seal's critical," Albright said. "The fact that there's a photo of what looks like an IAEA seal means that what's behind those doors is HMX. They only sealed bunkers that had HMX in them."
(ed: the seals which they broke to open the bunkers)
--- Quote ---Wouldn't it be a normal thing to get the ammunition from the depots just prior to an invasion?
Indeed.
And if these explosives are SO valuable that the Iraqis were willing to try to get them after the facility was overrun, why would they NOT pull them out before the war?
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No that doesn't make sense at all. But that isn;t the point. There is PROOF that the explosives were there (either January 23, March 15th or April 18th) and they are now not there. Either way they are now gone and this could/should have been prevented. Especially if you set out to counter terorism in the first place.
Are you that blind a believer in Bush that you cannot even see this glaring problem?
Dear lord man. I can (with some problem) understand why Bush doesn't accept his mistakes, but to blame us for "wanting to see things" is rather lame. Come up with some proof and we'll argue further. Now you are just saying something like "It's not true since I can't understand how terrorist can be clever"
--- Quote ---At this point, you people think the explosives were taken after we got there because you WANT to, not because there is any reason to.
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No. I'd rather have that the Russians did really take them home, but it unfortunately seems very unlikely.
Dexter:
--- Quote from: TA Pilot on October 29, 2004, 09:04:41 am ---At this point, you people think the explosives were taken after we got there because you WANT to, not because there is any reason to.
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I hate to upset your applecart but...(another pic)
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&ncid=578&e=3&u=/nm/20041028/ts_nm/iraq_explosives_abc_dc
There may have been enough troops in Iraq to secure oil and arms facilities/dumps if the Iraqis had welcomed them with flowers etc like Rummy presumed, but like the generals have been saying all along, there are insufficient numbers to do the job properly. Of course they went missing after the invasion, theres not enough men on the ground for guerilla warfare AND security detail.