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Lost: 380 tons of high explosives - Last seen in Iraq
TA Pilot:
Bush's response hits it out of the park:
"After repeatedly calling Iraq the wrong war, and a diversion, Senator Kerry this week seemed shocked to learn that Iraq is a dangerous place, full of dangerous weapons..."
"If Senator Kerry had his way... Saddam Hussein would still be in power. He would control those all of those weapons and explosives and could share them with his terrorist friends. Now the senator is making wild charges about missing explosives, when his top foreign policy adviser admits, quote, 'We do not know the facts.' Think about that: The senator is denigrating the actions of our troops and commanders in the field without knowing the facts..."
"Our military is now investigating a number of possible scenarios, including that the explosives may have been moved before our troops even arrived at the site. This investigation is important and it's ongoing. And a political candidate who jumps to conclusions without knowing the facts is not a person you want as your commander in chief."
fredster:
Talk about grasping at Straws. Kerry picking this up shows what an idiot he is.
The Pentagon says that these weapons were missing before they got there. The UN is showing the error on thier end.
It also proves the point that weapons were moved around before the war. There's more evidence that WMD was moved out of Iraq.
But the good news is that this is the Best Kerry and his group can come up with for an October Surprise.
I like it. I think it's funny.
patrickl:
--- Quote from: TA Pilot on October 27, 2004, 12:31:16 pm ---Bush's response hits it out of the park:
"After repeatedly calling Iraq the wrong war, and a diversion, Senator Kerry this week seemed shocked to learn that Iraq is a dangerous place, full of dangerous weapons..."
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and said "dangerous weapons" are now in the hands of terrorists with the compliments of George W B. opposed to in safe storage.
--- Quote ---"If Senator Kerry had his way... Saddam Hussein would still be in power. He would control those all of those weapons and explosives and could share them with his terrorist friends. <snip>
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Friends like Rumsfeld?
--- Quote ---"Our military is now investigating a number of possible scenarios, including that the explosives may have been moved before our troops even arrived at the site. This investigation is important and it's ongoing. And a political candidate who jumps to conclusions without knowing the facts is not a person you want as your commander in chief."
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and because of this investigation it is now news again. If Bush would have had a clue about ehat he was doing there he might have started the investigation earlier. Maybe even before it was stolen in the first place.
I have to agree this makes the whole scenario of the stolen WMD much more likely. If they put no guards on military stockpiles like this who knows how they "guarded" other installations. Now that's a hoot. They search for the WMD and the people who know just move them out the back door. Wouldn't you just have hoped for someone to start an invasion to actually plan ahead on what to do after the invasion was done? Or does it make sense to say "Ah well our troops are not trained to police these people so well just wait around a bit". The more I think about how this retard screwed up, the more worried I get about how he is helping the terrorists.
TA Pilot:
...and said "dangerous weapons" are now in the hands of terrorists with the compliments of George W B. opposed to in safe storage.
They were taken from storage before US forces arrive.
If you're going to blame anyone for the Iraqis having access to them, blame the IAEA for not blowing them up in 1995, as urged by Duelfur.
Friends like Rumsfeld
Wow. You're really desperate.
FDR and Truman shook Stalin's hand. Did that make them friends?
If Bush would have had a clue about ehat he was doing there he might have started the investigation earlier. Maybe even before it was stolen in the first place.
Given that it weas stolen before we arrived there - how do you suggest he have done that?
I have to agree this makes the whole scenario of the stolen WMD much more likely
So.... maybe there WERE WMDs in Iraq?
If so...doesnt that fully legitimatize the invasion?
Wouldn't you just have hoped for someone to start an invasion to actually plan ahead on what to do after the invasion was done?
Wait...
...you're blaming Bush for not having a plan to protect the weapons that are supposedly not there, and for not having enacted that plan BEFORE we physically reached the facilites?
Wow. Thats... remarkable.
fredster:
PatrickL,
You aren't a soldier. It's obvious that you never were. I was a soldier in the US army 1983-1992.
You plan as best you can, but you don't have a freaking crystal ball. All this talk of a 'plan' that contained contingentcies for every occasion is rediculous.
Don Rumsfeld is not a terrorist. He's part of the greatest force the world has every known.
The US knew about this report last year. The Pentagon said these weapons were gone before they owned Baghdad. The UN is pushing up a smoke screen because of the failures they made in Iraq.
The more I think about how retards look at the war on terror as a simple police action with set rules and regulations the more I realize I'm glad we have strong leadership in the US.
Drew won that debate listed above hands down dude. Face it, you are shooting blanks.