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patrickl:
--- Quote from: DrewKaree on October 31, 2004, 06:20:38 pm ---Patrick, you think you're safer in your country sitting there being pacifists. Who do you think they will turn against if they ever DO defeat the U.S.? You think they're gonna sit there and twiddle their thumbs and contemplate how nice their world is now that we're out of it? Your lollipops and rainbows view is fine, as long as America is there as a shield between you and the terrorists who hate anyone NOT muslim, and hate (but to a lesser degree) anyone else not muslim ENOUGH!
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Are you missing the fact that in Europe the terrorist threat was actually decreasing (at least before Bush started his mess) and everywhere else it's increasing?
Seriously, not even you can believe terrorists are a threat to a country. By definition, terrorists are annoying, but not a threat to whole country. The only thing that is really is a grave danger is people overreacting to a terrorist threat.
You really have such a weird outlook on life that I wonder why you aren't in a nice padded room somewhere.
Santoro:
--- Quote from: patrickl on October 31, 2004, 07:01:51 pm ---Seriously, not even you can believe terrorists are a threat to a country. By definition, terrorists are annoying, but not a threat to whole country.
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OMG this makes it official. You have no grasp on reality. If you think that 3000 dead with the potential of larger attacks is not a threat, you.....
well never mind. I'll keep it gentlemanly.
This is the reason I started the Sept 11 thread. People are in complete and utter denial about what happened that day, and about what the US is up against. Let me remind you. The people below are preparing to jump rather than burn alive, right before the f-ing building collapsed.
{image removed out of courtesy because the reality of 911 being proven was too much for a certain board member to handle.}
May you never be forced to wake up from that dreamland you are in. It was fun for me there pre-9/11 also.
patrickl:
--- Quote from: Santoro on October 31, 2004, 07:26:06 pm ---
--- Quote from: patrickl on October 31, 2004, 07:01:51 pm ---Seriously, not even you can believe terrorists are a threat to a country. By definition, terrorists are annoying, but not a threat to whole country.
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:o
OMG this makes it official. You have no grasp on reality. If you think that 3000 dead with the potential of larger attacks is not a threat, you.....
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No, this is not a threat to a country as a whole. How can this attack make the terrorists "take care of the US"? It will of course kill people so the police should try to prevent it, but there is no way terrorists can take over a country. Their aim is to scare people. If you get scared they have won.
That's what I found disrespectful about the thread you started. These people died because of the actions people like Bush undertake. You now try to abuse their death to scare people into voting for Bush because apparently he can instill a blind belief in people that he can actually take care of terrorism. Over here he would be institutionalized for claims like that.
TA Pilot:
No, this is not a threat to a country as a whole. Their aim is to scare people. If you get scared they have won.
Terrorists arent just trying to scare people... they have an agenda, and they further their agenda through fear.
Their agenda is a threat to the -free world- as a whole, to say nothing of the country.
You now try to abuse their death to scare people into voting for Bush because apparently he can instill a blind belief in people that he can actually take care of terrorism. Over here he would be institutionalized for claims like that.
Interesting observation.
Kerry makes the same claim.
Would he be instatutionalized as well?
Santoro:
--- Quote from: patrickl on October 31, 2004, 07:36:12 pm ---...people died because of the actions people like Bush undertake.
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The 9/11 attacks were in planning at the end of the Clinton era. The 1993 WTC bombing was under Clinton's watch. This isn't a 'people like Bush' phenomenon.
--- Quote ---You now try to abuse their death to scare people into voting for Bush because apparently he can instill a blind belief in people that he can actually take care of terrorism. Over here he would be institutionalized for claims like that.
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Well then, I sure am glad I am not 'over there.' I will ignore your insult because I have already established you are not living in the real world. I was there, I saw it, I lost friends. It must never happen again.. ever. The reason I brought it up was after seeing that so many people arguing in the threads here, it was being treated as a minor attack. Like a routine car bombing in Israel or Northern Ireland.
9/11 was a hundered times bigger than any terrorist attack before it. It was comparable to Pearl Harbor. I will not let the deniers forget it. I do this so that others never have to go through what the WTC occupants did. I defy you to get a copy of the '911' documentary and tell me after watching it that 9/11 was not a threat to my country. {edit: They needn't 'take over' the country to destroy it. 2-3 dirty bombs in major cities could wipe out our economy.}
You can believe that I am 'abusing thier' deaths if you like. While you are at it, please say 'hi' to Elvis for me..
Anyway, this is why I hate debating politics. I am not having fun here, and all I am learning is that in general the world seems to care more about terrorist's rights than US security. Yet we always send our troops and money when one of you all gets in trouble. It is so very incredibly frustrating.