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Happs Optical P360 Stick VS Suzo Inductive Conductor Stick?
KevSteele:
That Suzo sounds intriguing - I may just have to see if I can get one for the RetroBlast Joystick Roundup.
As to the P360 w/SlikStik stainless steel balltops - my absolute favorite joystick setup. I have no reservations (aside from the cost) - this is the best joystick config I have ever used.
Okay, gush mode off. Seriously, I am extremely happy with my P360s with the SS balltop handles.
http://www.retroblast.com/reviews/joysticks/happsp360.html
Kevin
Grasshopper:
The interesting thing is that the 4/8 way switch is done using a potentiometer. This suggests it may be possible to rig up a circuit to do the switching in software.
j^aws:
--- Quote from: KevSteele on October 23, 2004, 12:36:47 pm ---That Suzo sounds intriguing - I may just have to see if I can get one for the RetroBlast Joystick Roundup.
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That would be awesome news if you could review that stick! ;D
I've been searching Hi and Lo for a comparative review against the P360 and there's nothing on the web except the above post I made! ???
Your review could infact be the worlds 'first' complete review posted on the web! If that isn't incentive and exclusive enough i don't know what is! ;)
--- Quote from: KevSteele on October 23, 2004, 12:36:47 pm ---As to the P360 w/SlikStik stainless steel balltops - my absolute favorite joystick setup. I have no reservations (aside from the cost) - this is the best joystick config I have ever used.
Okay, gush mode off. Seriously, I am extremely happy with my P360s with the SS balltop handles.
http://www.retroblast.com/reviews/joysticks/happsp360.html
Kevin
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Thanks for link...nice site and I enjoyed reading the review. :)
It seems to me that the SS ball stick is the missing 'force that gives balance to the universe' stick! :D I don't think I'd be dissapointed with buying that stick but I prefer the shorter throws of the Sanwa's and the Suzo's, hence my interest in the Suzo inductive.
I'd be sightly grieved in buying the SS P360 if your review points to the Suzo being more suitable for me, hint, hint! ;) I'm quite tempted to take a leap of faith just for the hell of it and buy the Suzo before your review! :D
--- Quote from: Grasshopper on October 23, 2004, 12:59:04 pm ---The interesting thing is that the 4/8 way switch is done using a potentiometer. This suggests it may be possible to rig up a circuit to do the switching in software.
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That sounds neat! :)
I presume you could also use a simple on/off switch on the control panel to achieve the same affect of alternating beteween 4/8 way?
Other things that intrigue me are the 8 'ribs' mentioned which should give some tactile feedback on the 8 positions unlike the P360.
Another thing that's intrigued me is the inductive/ magentic system and whether the stick actually even uses a 'spring' for resistance instead relying on the induction/ magnetism effect providing the resistance! That would be neat! :D ...How about a dial/selector on the control panel controlling the 'stiffness' of the stick! :D Combining that with my preferred 'shorter' throw and 'balltop' stick could be my perfect setup! :D
Suzo's are highly 'underrated'...btw, found a larger image of the Suzo inductive,
u_rebelscum:
--- Quote from: Grasshopper on October 23, 2004, 12:59:04 pm ---The interesting thing is that the 4/8 way switch is done using a potentiometer. This suggests it may be possible to rig up a circuit to do the switching in software.
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You're talking about relacing the joystick's PCB logic? Can't see it happening with the default board:
a) The logic is done on the joystick's PCB, and is very simple:
--- Code: ---Output (each stage): Hi (RL= 8)(OFF).
Low (I<4mA)(ON) 400mV.
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(From suzo page)
The above hints digital ON/OFF output.
The POT would just reduce/increase the base current to be effected by the proximity of the stick base, changing the distance the stick needs to be near before it's switched.
b) The plug in the bigger picture looks lke there's 5 (or 6) pins. My guess is digital up, down, left, right, and power (and maybe grd). Thus usable to replace any normal 8/4 way joystick (as long as there's a 5+ volt source), much like the 360 PCB.
j^aws:
That's interesting...so using the POT you can adjust the joysticks throw/travel sensisitivity. I presume you can also adjust the directional/ diagonal angle sensitivity using this POT from reading Suzo's site,
--- Quote ---This is a full electronic joystick and works according to the inductive system. No contacts, no micro switches, only a PCB inside. Joystick is universal 4 and 8 way and can be adjusted by potentiometer.
The Universal Inductive Control is operating at a minimum of 4,75 VDC and a maximum of 5,25VDC.
Power consumption: max. 50mA.
Operating temperature: 0o to 70oC (320 to 160oF).
Storage temperature: -20o to 70oC (6o to 160oF).
Output (each stage): Hi (RL= 8)(OFF).
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