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| paigeoliver:
--- Quote ---man that drives me nuts. why is it every time someone has a question about how to do something, someone always has to come in and say "don't do it". That's like the 2nd time I've seen PO do that in the last week. it's almost as helpful as this post I'm making. 0 --- End quote --- Oh, I do a lot of "don't do that" posts. Many of them for good reason. "Don't do that" posts from me will often pop up in these threads. Any thread involving hacking multiple gamepads. Any thread involving a mame cabinet featuring a brand new computer and an old 17" monitor inside a monster cabinet. Any thread involving placing a large panel on a classic cabinet. Any thread about converting a driving cab into a joystick cabinet. Any thread involving an X-Arcade. Some threads about plexiglass. I don't like plexiglass, largely because it is conversion game fodder, and man does it start looking crappy quick. Real overlays do not get damaged during normal play, they get damaged from cigarette burns and from people peeling them off a bit at a time. So when someone posts indicating they are having all sorts of plexiglass issues I will often chime in and tell them that they don't need it. I do this because many of the people in this community have no real memory of dedicated games, and think that real arcade games have plexi, when in reality it is really crappy arcade games that have plexi. |
| Xiaou2:
Yes, but... these are just your opinions, and you shouldnt ram them down other peoples throats. Its pigheaded and not very polite. Plexi btw holds up very well. In the BUSY arcade I Managed for 3 years - plexi showed very little scratching or frosting. A little light polishing with novice was all it took to keep them sparkeling. Also... people dont peel the art off control panels unless its digging into thier hands! This happens because the glue that holds the stuff down fades over time... and also, the material bubbles up a bit. Then it starts to get brittle and cracks. Once the cracking starts... it becomes uncomfortable for the player to say the least - so they peel the sharp edge off. This of course speeds the process of the rest of the damage... however... it dosnt matter anyway, as the material is still old, crusty, and brittle. And prolly dirty, stained, and faded from hand oils and UV rays. And yes, I remember the days before plexi. In fact, we still had a galaga and a ms pacman. My collector friends also have numberous oldies... most all with some horrificly devestated control panel overlays. If you wish to state your OPINIONS - then say, Its my opinion that you ...ect. Otherwise its just plain rude - imop... and from what i can see, others as well. Ohh, and I think we have all had enough of you "ooo look at these toys I got for next to nothing" bragging posts. Get over yourself. This site should be about helping people to make arcade controls... not about self promoting ones egos. |
| patrickl:
Did you just have a very bad day or something? |
| paigeoliver:
You are absolutely right, it is just my opinion that multiple identical gamepads randonmly swap positions at each reboot. That must be an opinion, could not be a fact. Believe it or not I actually have been doing this a long time, I actually have made most of the mistakes already and can possibly keep other people from making them. Mame related mistakes as often as not end up with a cab in the dumpster. I don't keep plexi on my machines, but I can tell you every plexi equipped conversion game I have ever had has come with a nasty looking piece of plexi. Galagas and Pacs always have bad overlays. The pacs just got played too much and that 90 degree bend on galaga did those overlays in. |
| Xiaou2:
Solution 1. Don't use plexi. Plexi is for crappy conversion games that have extra holes under the overlay. ---- The above is an ORDER... not a suggestion or opinion. Altogether It is also snide - a mockery or insult. The 2nd sentence, is again a personal opinion... and yet you tout it off as if it were a fact... and that any other idea was like saying the sky is brown not blue. It all comes making you look less like someone who wants to be helpfull... and more like someone who thinks he is above everyone else... and goes so far as to laugh at others expense about it. Your helpfull advice, is also not the end all to all helpfullness. I had once tried the backwards drilling and it still cracked the plexi. As noted in my detailed posts... I tried many ways before figuring out those findings. Again tho... you come off as if you know the perfect solution to all problems... and anyone elses reply/opinion is useless and something to snicker at. "Believe it or not I actually have been doing this a long time" So have I. And... so have many many other great people on this board. So what? Everyone on this board has a right to an opionion, and shouldnt be belittled for voicing it. And shouldnt be scolded and commanded as to what and how to do something - based on opinions. You can see that there are many example links on this site that have plexi installed on them... and they look fantastic IMOP... and they Like how it turned out. Ohh, and if the plexi that came on your machines was whack... it was prolly cause the games you got wernt taken care of very well. Damage due to moving and poor storage... and people putting thier pcbs and other mechanical junk all over it. --- another thing "Galagas and Pacs always have bad overlays. The pacs just got played too much and that 90 degree bend on galaga did those overlays in." Somewhat admits that your logic is flawed. You say you do not need plexi... but, by Pacman overlays die from overuse... and galagas from too steep an angle bend. These circumstances are reasons why plexi is usefull. For pacman... the plexi could have been polished or replaced if worn... keeping the art spankin new. For galaga... they should have realized the material would crack period... but still, you can see that the stuff does crack and warp with age. Its not impervious to dirt, stains, oils,..ect. And replacing it isnt easy as replacing a piece of plexi - as theres lots of glue to try to scrape off... that and still haveing to try to get another piece of art printed out all over again$. But hey... those are just my opinions... |
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