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shmokes:

Fredster,

I don't just think Kerry's going to lose because things aren't going our way.   I think that Kerry and the democrats deserve to lose.  They've sucked at framing issues.  George Bush has been able to trick the general public into believing that there is a link between Iraq and Al Queida.  And that's just one issue.  When we see him on his off time he's in a plaid shirt with his dog, out on the ranch, working.  We know it's for show.  He has hired help that does all the work on the ranch, of course.  But when Kerry takes a break, and he knows that media will be everywhere, he goes wind surfing or to an exclusive private ski resort in Idaho.  

Bush will win because he knows (or at least Karl Rove knows, but I give Bush credit too) how to run a campaign.  It's not just polls that make me think Kerry will lose; it's the fact that Kerry doesn't know what he's doing and Bush does.  

Sad.

DrewKaree:

From my first link


--- Quote ---Summary

A Kerry ad released July 20 returns to a theme he and his Democratic allies have been pushing for months: a claim that tax incentives to locate jobs overseas is a big problem that is Bush's fault and that Kerry promises to fix.

Kerry's latest ad -- all positive -- paints his tax fix as the centerpiece of a plan to create jobs -- the "lifeline for America's families." The negative side, blaming Bush, has been seen earlier in ads such as a Media Fund spot first aired last March saying "Bush's policies have encouraged the loss of nearly 3 million jobs" and "he supported tax breaks for corporations that ship jobs overseas."

But recent Labor Department data underscore what even Democratic economists have said for some time -- outsourcing jobs overseas, or "offshoring," accounts for just a small fraction of the many millions of jobs that are lost each year even in a good economy.

There is indeed a tax break for US-based multinational corporations to locate operations overseas. Bush isn't to blame for it -- it's been there for decades. It's also true that Bush doesn't support Kerry's proposed remedy, which is controversial.

But even backers of the Kerry plan concede that eliminating the tax break won't end the offshoring of some US jobs. Multinational businesses build plants in other countries to take advantage of lower wages and to be near their global customers, too, not just for tax reasons.
Analysis

Economic analysts say offshoring is a fairly small problem, and Kerry's tax proposal won't do much to solve it.
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So make of that what you will, but when you paint Bush as the "most egregious abuser", you're wrong, and the story goes on to point out that even Democrats don't agree that Kerry's plan is the solution.  

Would you like several stories of Democrats who have switched their allegiance to Kerry, or several news stories who believe Kerry won't win?  It's all the same to you...."lies" that don't prove one way or the other that blind allegiance to the man whose chief plan is "to do it better than the current administration" ISN'T the way to go.

As for "my crappy website", it's the only one anyone's posted in any thread that has continued to poke holes in both sides - the ads they run, the claims they make....you'd like everyone to believe they should be flippantly dismissed, but even a casual observation of their site shows my statement to be true.  Your main problem is that you don't like ANY website that might shed light on your lies.

And you prattle on about goosestepping ::)

Blind hatred must be a bear to get over.

mr.Curmudgeon:

Drew,

I read that article and it just doesn't offer much. Kerry plan is a step in the right direction, and your article would even seem to support that (ie: "wouldn't do *much*"...but it would do something, right? Bush has done nothing!). Offshoring accounts for a small portion of jobs lost...so what...should be just keep sending jobs overseas then, let's make it really count!! These numbers have continued to grow under Bush and I bet that once Kerry is in office, we'll get the real numbers on the economy under Bush, and it won't be pretty. Everything we get from this White House is tainted, extrapolated and exaggerated. Fuzzy Math 101 is a Republican prerequisite.

Sure there's political spin involved in what Kerry says, but don't act like Bush is honest abe either. Bush lost 3.1 million jobs...if they didn't go overshore (which I don't believe they all did), where did they go? I certainly don't expect you to hold him accountable, I mean, Clinton did get a blowjob after all, but is it so hard for you to understand how those of us who do think he's responsible balk at the idea of clapping for a measley 130,000 jobs here, 112,000 jobs there?

Bottom line, I may be blinded by hate when it comes to Bush...but you seem to be blinded by sympathy for that sorry excuse for a president. Don't be an apologist, I know you can do better than that.

mr.Curmudgeon:

One more thing...I may just disappear from these political threads again, for a while. It's not that I don't like them  ::) , it's just that I'd rather be out there helping the Kerry campaign in ways that really matter. Nobody here is going to change, but I've been working to make a difference in New Hampsire, Ohio and Michigan (my home state).

So far, much more rewarding than posting links and making fun of Bush. (Although that is fun!)

Mameotron:


--- Quote from: GGKoul on September 28, 2004, 02:49:46 pm ---How about those expos?

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You mean the Washington, D.C. Expos?  I think they will suck.

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