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DrewKaree:


--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on September 24, 2004, 11:49:54 am ---Doesn't Australia make everyone vote, whether they know who's running or not?  

"That man's name is easy to pronounce, so I'll vote for him."
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Savuul is FAR from easy to pronounce.  That's a mischaracterization!

Oh, and I'll add - How can you not have 100% when everyone who can vote is required to do so, under penalty of *cough*somewhatstiff*cough* law?

Does that mean the criminals aren't voting?  How will they ever keep guns off the street and other such inane things?   ;D

Mameotron:


--- Quote from: DrewKaree on September 24, 2004, 12:15:29 pm ---

Oh, and I'll add - How can you not have 100% when everyone who can vote is required to do so, under penalty of *cough*somewhatstiff*cough* law?

Does that mean the criminals aren't voting?  How will they ever keep guns off the street and other such inane things?   ;D

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That's right, I forgot (quote from movie) "and as everyone knows, Australia is entirely peopled with criminals".

Edit: (fun natured jest)(sarcasm)(I will NOT give in to the smilies!!)

Latest Edit:  Aww, it turns out Drew isn't actually being a smartass...(I know, hard to believe)
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/dem_com_vot_enf

I didn't realize voting was compulsary in Austrailia.  What's that all about?

fredster:

I don't know how you would enforce it.

It would make the polls for the likely voters a little more correct.

Where is Danny_Galaga now that we need real info?

Dan, how do you vote?  How long do you have to vote?  1 day or a week or what?

What happens if you don't vote?  Who doesn't get to vote?

fredster:

Danny the questions are:
Dan, how do you vote?  How long do you have to vote?  1 day or a week or what?
What happens if you don't vote?  Who doesn't get to vote?

Here's a take on why we shouldn't have compulsory voting :
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/23/60minutes/rooney/main645197.shtml

Lilwolf:

Just to pop into the end of a long thread.

About healthcare... I like Nadders statements.

About Full Healthcare - "When people say we can't afford it, I have to say that we already do."

We already pay for healthcare (at least the majority of the country who can afford it).

The question is if the government could do a better job of administering.

I believe they could.  If only to force pricing and buying meds in mass.  And if private companies wont produce medicans for the government... then the government can make them (they really can).  I'm not talking about making them sell products for nothing..  But make sure that they do two things.

1) Sell medicans to US citizens for the same as the sell abroad.   If we need to help countries out who can afford items (like aids medicans) it shouldn't be the drug companies but the government doing it.  

2) Sell ALL medicans which where the developement was funded by the US tax payers.. That the drugs will be sold for cost + a small percentage.  Its AMAZING the amount of government funded development items that companies buy the 100% production rights... and are making billions with NO risk at all!


Also, with part of this should come medical insurance reform.  

I believe that we should try to get more doctors.  And give them more time with each patient.   Remove the malpractice insurance costs 100% from the doctors.  Then if a doctor is a problem, we remove them from practice, or send them to jail.  

One of the problems with malpractice insurance is its getting SO expensive that doctors can't spend the time on each patient that they should because of the cost of doing business and the number of people who they need to see.

But part of this, they should have some limits on what they are legally allowed to do.  They SHOULD make enought money that people want to be doctors.  And they SHOULD be able to make that money looking at few enought patients that is safe (for their patients, and for their own sanity).

We have more lawyers in the US right now then doctors and this sucks.

Now... what do we do with all these new lawyers?  I have no idea.  But not this topic.  But if any major reform happens.   We can't just expect put millions of lawysers out of business just because we change how things work.  They spent thousands on school to have a job.  

The real trouble with government controlled hosiptols is the very very expensive procedures which aren't that reliable.... or saving people who are in their 90s who might really die a year later.

that and who pays for Breast enlargements and Viagra??





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