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1000 Reasons not to vote for GW
GGKoul:
wow.. I thought this thread was dead.
DrewKaree:
--- Quote from: GGKoul on September 07, 2004, 11:53:32 am ---wow.. I thought this thread was dead.
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threads only die when questions posed in them are answered, or if people are tired of posting to them.
I just KNEW you weren't tired of this one!
Mameotron:
--- Quote from: DrewKaree on September 07, 2004, 02:55:59 am ---
Why would I be fine with that? The employment statistics we've used to judge our presidents mysteriously changed between Clinton and Bush. When it was Clinton in office, the unemployment rate was touted as the big thing. Now it's the number of jobs.
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I thought I was the only one who saw it that way. People today sure don't want to hear about the unemployment rate.
Hmm, let me think, now what president was responsible for passing NAFTA, which allows companies today to move so many jobs overseas and contribute to this "staggering job loss rate" under Bush?
I'm a firm believer in the trickle-down theory, and bad things also trickle down.
Don't even get me started on the unions. They demand so much in pay and benefits and wonder why companies are relocating somewhere cheaper. Yes, you can do a handy search and see that I posted in another thread that I was a union Ironworker for seven years. I am not anymore. Too much greed & politics, not enough genuine concern over the views of the members.
Did I mention that I was once pulled off a job because I refused to sign the "voluntary" contribution papers to give part of what I earned to whatever political candidate my union wanted to back?
GGKoul:
My 2 cents:
Unions were good in the early 1900's when people & children worked like dogs under dangerous conditions and got little pay. As they needed to group together too make changes. But today, Unions protect the high salary "lazy" worker way too much. And it's this High Salary, that forces a company's hand to move to find cheaper labour. Sure this isn't right, but as a shareholder of a company. The company should to everything in it's power too reduce it's expenses.
Hate to say this, but Wal-mart is the retail giant that it is because it doesn't allow unions in any of its locations. On the other hand, Costco, I used to work for them while University. Costco offers a high hourly wage for it's employees. And whenever a union trys to come into Costco, it usually fails. As Costco takes care of there employee's from the beginning. Heck, I know people with University & College Degrees that have been working at Costco over 10 years now. And they work as F/T Cashiers or Fork Lift drivers and they make close to $50,000/year Cdn @ $43,000/year US.
I work in the IT field. And I now have to talk to a programmer in India for enhancements. As the company can hire 3 programmers in India for the price of 1 programmer in Canada. With the ever increasing pressure for companies to shave expenses, this is going to happen a lot more in the future.
danny_galaga:
--- Quote from: GGKoul on September 08, 2004, 11:45:38 am --- And they work as F/T Cashiers or Fork Lift drivers and they make close to $50,000/year Cdn @ $43,000/year US.
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i've got a forklift licence. hang on!! i'm coming over ;D