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| Knoxximus:
Really though, who except OEM folks are gonna order the board only version? This is a noob here.....he's gonna want the harness. So, that being said, it's not like you have to order it separately because when you order that particular bundle (I have the USB myself), it is included. |
| Bgnome:
i understand your point, but i think you are underestimating people here. when i considered ordering the minipac, i was going to order it without the harness and wire it with an IDE connector. i know that many others have already done the same. $17 is not an insignificant amount. i never said the harness had to be ordered separately, i just said you pay more for it. there is no difference between the options available at the moment except for the wiring harness and the connection cables. hence why i believe it to be optional. it boils down to cost vs convenience. without the harness, it is one of the most cost-effective options out there. |
| microwrx:
Dude If you have a 2 player control panel with 6 buttons each player plus player 1 & 2 start, that's 22 inputs in total. Leaving you with 6 inputs for your admin buttons (if you really think you need them, shift works just fine), coin buttons and trackball buttons (mouse buttons). No additional wiring or crimping will be required. However, adding the 4 way will mean you'll need to wire up it's input's to the same wires as the 8-way player 1 stick (and if you have it in the middle of your panel and have seperate buttons for it then you will wire those buttons to the same corresponding player 1 buttons also). Flipper buttons usually use the same input as player 1's buttons so you won't need additional inputs for those either. So the only additional wiring you will need to do is for those buttons that share inputs and if you do it smart (y cables with a single male connector at one end and your 2 or 3 female ones at the other) you will not need to make any changes to the Mini-PAC harness at all, even if you stuff up you shouldn't have to change anything on the Mini-PAC harness as the connectors just pull off/push on. For those discussing the pro's/con's of getting the Mini-PAC with/without the harness (which is the only difference in the price). I purchased mine with the standard harness but decided to make my own with an IDE cable and save the harness it came with for my next project. The reason was I have used mine in a 4 player cab (for player 3&4, player 1&2 utilise a J-PAC) and the standard harness just wouldn't reach between players 3&4 even with the long cables. I'll save that harness for a 2 player project I have in mind for the future. |
| megashock5:
Hmm. Well, that was part of my problem (the pinball flippers) but if they can share with buttons that are already being used, it might be doable. What about a pinball plunger button, does that use a key already being used as well? Also, for those who have the minipac, are the standard wires it comes with long enough for a 2-player panel? Again, I'm using the project arcade plans (just for reference). Thanks everyone for all the input! I just don't want to order the wrong thing for what I need. |
| Knoxximus:
Yeah, the're long enough....you will just need to make sure that the wires coming off of the controls are long enough to reach them and still have some slack, that's all. But like I said, when everything is finally laid out in front of you, it will make a lot more sense. |
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