We're talking two completely different things here, AND you didn't answer the original question asked. His original post states (two separate points underlined)
100 million ditto heads follow partyline with the reason we attacked iraq, even though it changed, and he can't believe that they can find 250 people to lie?
Also, since we got got a thread closed down, it would behoove those of us wanting to talk about this to calm down and re-read what we are saying to see if it is indeed civil, and change it if it is NOT (not taking a shot at you, shmokes, just a general "knock it off" to everyone, after all, if I don't have these threads, how will my post count EVER get higher than yours?
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That's easy. The party line is, "Stand behind the president, regardless..."
that's overly simplistic and not fleshed out. Which is that the answer to, 1 or 2? If it's 2, then it must have changed from "
NOT standing behind the president, regardless". Also, I'm asking...*rephrases*...from what did the "ditto-plan" change from?
It's one thing to throw out baseless assessments of a political group, it's another to say them, show how you formulated that opinion, and then defend your claim. The former is how debate gets inflamed and doesn't serve either party. I'm just asking Valence to flesh out his claim.
He means that even though it should be painfully obvious that we should not have gone into Iraq, people wear their party-line blinders and refuse to see what's right in front of them. He means that in a country this divided and partisan it's silly to suggest that it would be difficult to find a group of people like this to lie.
Think about it....how would there be 250 people from other boats that would know one way or the other whether John Kerry's wound was legit? These are people who were in swift boats and who support Bush, and so they join the cause.
For that matter, you think an Army doctor in Vietnam is honestly going to remember someone coming in with a "minor wound" 30 years ago, off the top of his head, without looking at the medical records (which of course contradict what he is saying)? Ya know...it's not that hard to get a purple heart when you're in a war like vietnam, as long as you manage to come back alive. The guy was a swift boat captain. All you have to do to get a purple heart is get injured in battle. Even if it was Kerry's own mortor bouncing off a rock that got him in the arm (which there is no evidence to suggest this is what happened), what do you suppose he was shooting at?
this is where we're talking two different things. I'm not asking about this, or referring to this...yet...I'm just asking about what the party line is, and what it was.
Oh, and btw, thanks for clearing that up
shmokes Valence
it really helped us find out what ya thought