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Minwah:


--- Quote from: Kremmit on June 21, 2004, 07:02:09 pm ---An analog stick is an OK replacement, but most analog sticks don't usually have anywhere near the stiffness needed to "feel" right.  A 49 way stick is a better replacement.  49 way sticks can still be bought from Happs, or pulled from Sinistar, Bubbles, Arch Rivals, Blitz, or Guantlet 2 machines.   (any others?)

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So a 49-way feels more like a hall effect?  What about the lower resolution of the 49-way (compared to analog), does it matter?

Kremmit:


--- Quote ---So a 49-way feels more like a hall effect?  What about the lower resolution of the 49-way (compared to analog), does it matter?
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A 49 way doesn'' feel "the same" as a Hall stick, any more than a Ms. Pac Man/Galaga reunion microswitch joystick feels the same as an original Ms. Pac leaf switch joystick.  But at least it feels like an arcade stick, instead of one of those super-loose PC sticks that aren't any good for anything except Flight Sims.  Plus, PC analog sticks always have those funky handgrips- I, Robot and Road Runner had a the black Atari logo Ball-top.  For these reasons, I feel the 49 way is the closest we are likely to get.  (unless somebody does know how to interface a Hall stick w/ MAME...)

I honestly don't know about the resolution - anybody know what resolution a Hall stick puts out?

Minwah:


--- Quote from: Kremmit on June 22, 2004, 10:36:14 am ---A 49 way doesn'' feel "the same" as a Hall stick, any more than a Ms. Pac Man/Galaga reunion microswitch joystick feels the same as an original Ms. Pac leaf switch joystick.  But at least it feels like an arcade stick, instead of one of those super-loose PC sticks that aren't any good for anything except Flight Sims.  Plus, PC analog sticks always have those funky handgrips- I, Robot and Road Runner had a the black Atari logo Ball-top.  For these reasons, I feel the 49 way is the closest we are likely to get.  (unless somebody does know how to interface a Hall stick w/ MAME...)

I honestly don't know about the resolution - anybody know what resolution a Hall stick puts out?

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Ahh, sorry, what I was getting was: is a 49-way better for those games than an *arcade* analog stick.

I don't know the resolution of a hall effect stick, but it must be more or less the same as an analog stick (I guess 256x256ish matrix).  Since a 49-way only uses a 7x7 way matrix, I would have thought an anlog stick would be better.

I get what you're saying about PC analog sticks, but I happen to have an arcade analog stick :)

etumor:

Okay, so hypothetically speaking, what else are 49-way joysticks good for?  Do they work on 8-way games (and when I say WORK, I mean do they FEEL RIGHT, or even close to it).  Are they a good fit for analog control games like Paperboy?

So far it sounds like it would be the "right" stick for Sinistar and Bubbles, and an okay stick for I, Robot.  I'm just wondering, if I put one on one of my cabinets, what else could it be used for (which would determine which cabinet I put it on and where it will go).

-Jeff

Minwah:


--- Quote from: etumor on June 22, 2004, 12:06:59 pm ---Okay, so hypothetically speaking, what else are 49-way joysticks good for?  Do they work on 8-way games (and when I say WORK, I mean do they FEEL RIGHT, or even close to it).  Are they a good fit for analog control games like Paperboy?

So far it sounds like it would be the "right" stick for Sinistar and Bubbles, and an okay stick for I, Robot.  I'm just wondering, if I put one on one of my cabinets, what else could it be used for (which would determine which cabinet I put it on and where it will go).

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There was a thread here a week or 2 ago about a similar topic...basically I think Paige was saying 49-ways are pretty good for 8-way games, not too good for 4-way.  Also it was guessed that they would be pretty good for analog stick games, although no-one had massively put the theory to test yet.

On paper it sounds to me like 49-ways wouldn't be too good for analog games...but in practice I doubt the old analog stick games took full advantage of the resolution of the sticks anyway (?)  U_Rebel made a great page here: http://www.urebelscum.speedhost.com/49waySticks.html :)

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