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lokki:

--- Quote from: patrickl on April 29, 2004, 12:48:00 pm ---Along those lines, if you distribute MAME (for free) on a cab (which you sell) you should be fine. I can't see anywhere in the license that you can't accompany it with a sold product. Just that you can;t charge for MAME itself.

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I think that the distinction is that you are using MAME as a selling point of the cab. So that even if you say that MAME is free in reality because MAME is installed you are able to get a higher price.
Having said that personally I don't have much of a problem with selling cabs with MAME. (not that my opinion matters)

What does botter me is if the cab is used to generate money. (charge per play).


paigeoliver:
Anyway, if you really want to get upset about people selling Mame, then forget the cabinet builders, they are selling a legitimate product. The end product is no different, if the seller installs the software, or the buyer. The end result is THE SAME. The fact is that you can't sit on any high horse about any of this, unless you are that one phantom person (who I have yet to meet), in the emulation community who has a 100 percent "legal" rom collection.

Where was I, oh yeah, forget the cabinet builders, they are just guys like you. If you want something to complain about, then why not complain about the plethora of Mame powered JAMMA boards coming out of Asia. Every 3 in one, 6 in one, 9 in one, 12 in one, the Mega-Williams, the game crystal, the 1000 in one board, and others are ALL Mame. All Mame, all mass produced by actual companies, not just individuals, and no one says jack about this stuff, and I see this stuff on location. I see this stuff for sale on ebay, I see this stuff at every auction, and I see this stuff for sale from "reputable" amusement companies.
Tilzs:
This is all blown out of proportion. I don't see the big deal if it has Mame on it or not. It's the cab that someone is buying not because it has mame on it or not but rather because it can run mame. Who cares if it's useing the word "MAME" to sell the cab. Thats really no different than Oscar selling spinners with the word MAME on it.

Besides it's up to the copyright holder to enforce their copyright, not BYOAC.
Tiger-Heli:

--- Quote from: patrickl on April 29, 2004, 12:48:00 pm ---Along those lines, if you distribute MAME (for free) on a cab (which you sell) you should be fine. I can't see anywhere in the license that you can't accompany it with a sold product. Just that you can;t charge for MAME itself.

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It comes down to whether MAME adds to the intrinsic value of the product.  Like my laptop example above - now if I sell the laptop for $2500 more than similar laptops, but the $2500 in unauthorized software is included free . . .

Another example - My dad once wanted to buy a bottle of wine on Sunday, which was illegal in the town I lived in, but the salesclerk offered to give him the bottle for free if he would agree to tip him the selling price of it . . . .

--- Quote ---The only thing you are not allowed to do, is to distribute ROM images along with MAME, but if people here start complaining about that  .... well ...

I can't figure out don't see why people are bothered about this so much.
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Everyone's afraid of the Napster effect.  Napster was a great think when only a few 1000 people knew about it.  When it became a household word, the recoding industry shut it down fast (more or less). . .
Lilwolf:
naa... this is a good convo... hasn't got nasty yet.

but its always good to respect the mame dev. wishes.  If they came out and said they felt that nobody should EVER sell a mame cab (with software or without)... then we should adhere..  they spend WAY MORE time writing mame then we do to make playing mame more fun.

if they ask for us NEVER to add mame to any cab (sell or no) then I would recommend us not mentioning that we add mame to our cab :)  


--- Quote from: Tilzs on April 29, 2004, 01:27:06 pm ---This is all blown out of proportion. I don't see the big deal if it has Mame on it or not. It's the cab that someone is buying not because it has mame on it or not but rather because it can run mame. Who cares if it's useing the word "MAME" to sell the cab. Thats really no different than Oscar selling spinners with the word MAME on it.

Besides it's up to the copyright holder to enforce their copyright, not BYOAC.

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