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| Santoro:
--- Quote from: hulkster081 on April 23, 2004, 03:23:42 pm ---well ive seen all the opinions on this post, and there are a lot of vets here. well this opinion is coming from someone who could give a rats ass about old games. --- End quote --- This got me thinking, maybe one's stance on the debate is age-related. Is there anyone born after 1978 who cares what they do this poor defenseless cab? Just a thought.... I am a geezer born in 1965, and I care. |
| Minwah:
--- Quote from: Santoro on April 23, 2004, 03:33:43 pm ---This got me thinking, maybe one's stance on the debate is age-related. Is there anyone born after 1978 who cares what they do this poor defensless cab? Just a thought.... I am a geezer born in 1965, and I care. --- End quote --- 1979 and yes I would rather see the machine restored than MAME'd. Someone gave the car example, this reminds me of a big Mini debate. I'm into Minis and go to a lot of shows - there's always some wiseguy who does something rediculous to an old Mk1, like cut the arches out and stick on a big whale-tail. Their argument would be 'at least its not on the scrapheap', which is a reasonably fair point. Why mess up something that's survived so long is everyone elses point...let someone who cares restore and look after it. Same principal applies here... Note that this isn't a reflection on this case neccessarily. If you're going to restore it StudBoy then good luck and fair play :) |
| studboy62:
Guys, I'm gonna restore the case so please don't worry about it. I've already talked to Jay and he agrees with me. When I talk about painting the sides I mean just on the bottom were the board has chipped off. I'm just gonna paint the chipped part so that it's not as noticeable. And about the Troll thing, I've never seen people do that on message boards before so I didn't know about it. Sorry for any confusion. |
| patrickl:
studboy62, good luck restoring the cab. Just wanted to say that I think more people should build their own cabs. Like the guy (forgot his name) who designed his own airplane to race, since everyone else was using (and destroying) old mustang airplanes. If you build the cab yourself you're free to do whatever you want wwith it and noone can nag on you for authenticity ;D |
| paigeoliver:
I use original cabinets all the time, but I only use the RIGHT cabinets. First off, if it is working, then forget it. (Unless it is a fairly trashed mis-matched conversion, like a black painted pac-cabinet with Contra marquee running a Gals Panic board). Dead conversion titles are generally open season, although I DO try to keep the original conversion artwork if possible. Dedicated games are more complicated. Dedicated working, forget it, keep it as is. Dedicated dead (but complete), MAYBE usable for Mame. Basically you need to take a reality check on what the game is. What the game is worth. How much money it would take you to repair the game, and if you would want the game once fixed. I do often support simply replacing a dead PCB with the computer in these instances. Fact is that a Pac, Galaga, or Williams PCB is REALLY expensive, and the computer can play the same game for cheaper. Dedicated incomplete. Same questions as dedicated, dead. Dedicated stripped. Usually open season for Mame here. There are VERY FEW games that it makes financial sense to build from the ground up when all you have is a piece of wood. In all cases of dedicated games, One major rule applies #1. Do not paint over the sideart, enlarge the control panel, or otherwise modify the cabinet. If you are not happy with the original control panel, then simply remove it and make a new one to replace it. Do your absolute best to make sure your results look like the original game. A few examples from my own LONG maming history. Galaxian/Pac cabinet. Was Clutch Hitter (painted brown) when I got it. Eventually got a Pac-Man marquee, bezel, and control panel, and ran only 4-way games. Amazing Maze - Was complete and dedicated, but dead when I got it. Boardset repairs would have run me $150. There is ZERO demand for this game. The repaired game would not have been worth the $150. I sold the monitor and boardset for far more than the working game would have been worth. I removed the original panel and set it aside (still have it too), and made a new panel with the standard SF II layout. I used it for a LONG time this way. It was recently de-mamed though. I plan on putting the original panel back on, and redoing it to only have games that can play with the controls it has on the original panel. Battlezone. I was doing this to look all original outside, but be all computer and VGA inside. Cabinet came to me complete minus PCB, minus monitor. A quick ebay check tells me that the monitor and PCB are worth more than the complete working game. So I went the mame route. I never quite finished the project though. I got the monitor installed, and lost interest. I listed the incomplete project on ebay, and the buyer ONLY wanted the panel and periscope plastics, so now I STILL have the cabinet, only far less complete than before. Defender - Was empty cabinet with sideart. I got a repro marquee, an NOS Willis Defender overlay, and made it into a Mame powered Defender. It ONLY runs Defender right now, and I never actually got around to giving it a dedicated computer, so it is still in project mode. Space Firebird - Was mini. Was complete, and worked, except for one problem, missing shot animations. It is a common problem, and no one know how to fix it. I sold the insides, sold the cabinet to someone else to Mame, and then was given the cabinet back six months later. I changed only the joystick externally (switched 2 way for 8-way), and eventually sold this game complete at the St. Louis auction. I have more examples, but I think you guys get the picture. For those of you that DON'T want to build your own, but don't want to "tear up" an original either, then there is still one big option. Non-collectable machines. Trivia machines. Gambling machines Tournament Solitaire (ONE OF THE BEST cabinets for Mame, has serial trackball already, has VGA monitor already, has room for two joysticks and buttons). other commericial units that resemble arcade games, but are not. This gambling and trivia stuff has no real collectors value. It isn't like Pac-Man, where the new stuff will NEVER replace the old stuff. With gambling and trivia, the new stuff is ALWAYS better than the old stuff. |
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