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Lilwolf:


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Is there a way to get rid of the messenger icon in the task bar, I don't use messenger!
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LoL ........ If you can't figure that one out there's no hope for ya.   ;)

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There is a real way... not just the grab and minimize... theres a way to fully remove it...

how do I know?  Well at a job I used to work at, we would !@# with each others machines when they would be gone on vacation (give them something to look forward to coming home too).

one of the best jobs we did (on our boss) is take a screenshot of the desktop, set it up as a background, remove all the links, permently removed the bottom.  

very effective for annoyiing people... after a few hours he had to come to us to find out how to undo it all... sigh... he wasn't any fun...

Its one of the options... I don't remember what... but with 98 (or 95) it was configurable without the registry.

Jakobud:

Wow I'm suprised to see so many people anti 2K in here.  I am running 2K on my cabinet and it's great.  No problems whatsoever.  The problem(s) with 98 is the way it handles processes.  It stores too much extra clutter and crap under the hood even after you have stopped or killed processes.  It wants to cache everything.  That's why 98 slows down so much of over time. 2000 handles processes MUCH better than 98.

Yes, I think that Win2K is no good for modern games, but I am primary speaking about 3D accelerated games.  Mame runs excellently on my computer, and I don't have to deal with the headache of 98 crashes.  No negatives here for me.

As for XP, well I have never eXPerienced it fortunately.  I'm not one of the suckers who succums to purchasing Micro$oft's newest OS just because it looks prettier.  I hear XP runs solidly, but I HATE resource hogs as we all know XP is.  And anyone here that reads slashdot.org or theregister.co.uk regularly knows that XP is the most insecure M$ OS yet.  At least it doesn't crash all the time like ME.  I would love to see how many people here who work in a professional office environment (with a real IT dept) actually have XP running at their office.  You know it's all NT and 2000 machines.  This is because of better security, better stability, and better process handling procedures.

I can't wait till this states vs. M$ trial is over so M$ is forced to make an operating system without all their extra, bloated, useless crap integrated in.  

If you are running a slower system (<800 MHz) I would not recommend running XP simply because of resource hogging.  I would definately recommend 2000 of 98 for you, because of all the things I mentioned above, UNLESS you are planning on running the newest PC games on it also (which you probably won't be with a 800 MHz machine).  

If you have a fast (+2GHz) system I suppose resource hogging would not be a concern and I guess XP would be good if you like the colors and don't mind the insecurities.

my 2 cents.

jakobud

Minwah:

I'm still not 100% sure.

Win98 works great for what I use.  BUT it crashes a lot.  I'm gonna be using my cab for hours on end so restarting every hour or two would be a real pi$$er.

Win2k seems to crash less, but I haven't used it for serious gaming, so I'm relying on other peoples experience in terms of performance.

WinXP:  I don't have it, and don't particularly agree with buying it ;)  My mum has in installed, and I tried it but I can't even find anything.  And the colors/schemes blow.  It seems quite slow 2, maybe that's her P3 tho (1.1gig mind).  I don't need the multi-media improvements XP can offer.

I'll be using a quick machine.  Hopefully the top Athlon XP.

I think I'm going to use '98.  Then try it for a while.  I'll have no crap on it so it may be OK.  If it sucks then maybe I'll try 2000.

Jakobud:

Minwah, if you are only planning on doing only Mame on this OS and not doing modern 3d accelerated games, I would seriously go with 2000.  Read all the stuff I said above of the terrible caching that 98 does.  That's why it crashes so much and slows down so bad over time.

Your 98 has been crashing multiple times per day?? I have had 2000 running on my arcade cabinet for a month and it has never crashed once...

Jakobud

Howard_Casto:


--- Quote from: Lilwolf on July 17, 2002, 09:43:18 am ---

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on July 16, 2002, 04:44:17 pm ---

--- Quote from: SirPoonga on July 16, 2002, 01:28:04 pm ---
Is there a way to get rid of the messenger icon in the task bar, I don't use messenger!
--- End quote ---


LoL ........ If you can't figure that one out there's no hope for ya.   ;)

--- End quote ---


There is a real way... not just the grab and minimize... theres a way to fully remove it...

how do I know?  Well at a job I used to work at, we would !@# with each others machines when they would be gone on vacation (give them something to look forward to coming home too).

one of the best jobs we did (on our boss) is take a screenshot of the desktop, set it up as a background, remove all the links, permently removed the bottom.  

very effective for annoyiing people... after a few hours he had to come to us to find out how to undo it all... sigh... he wasn't any fun...

Its one of the options... I don't remember what... but with 98 (or 95) it was configurable without the registry.

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Im assuming you use outlook express.  That's your culprit.... rename the messenger folder to something else and it gone, no errors or nothing.  One question, if you don't use messager then why don't you just uninstall it?

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