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Zebidee:


--- Quote from: Duffy on July 16, 2024, 02:39:53 am ---In step 2, he mentions to unzip GM, give mame64.exe admin privileges. Mine is just called mame.exe, I assume they're meant to be the same thing? The admin privileges tickbox is greyed out for me. Any idea why?

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This would be about user privileges. You need to login as an admin level user or create the appropriate permissions for the current user. I think you can do this by typing WIN+R (run) then type "control userpasswords2", then selecting the user/properties to change group membership. But you'll need to be logged in as admin anyway to make the appropriate changes.

"mame64.exe" and "mame.exe" are essentially the same thing. Mame devs simply stopped adding the "64" prefix a while back.

I think you need admin privileges to install the CRT_emulator driver too.
I don't know if using multiple video cards creates issues. You'll need the real "sensei" (Calamity) to have a look.


--- Quote ---But the game does not run, just an error message (photo below)
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That is not an error message, it is only for information. You can turn it off via setting in mame.ini, though I prefer to leave it on. Just follow the instructions ("press any key to continue") and it will show the game.



--- Quote ---Thank you very much for your time and patience Sensei! Oh yes before I forget, I do have a turdmuffin VGA to Component transcoder from ali express:

  https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806686968960.html
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Those transcoders are little better than meadowmuffins. They are a cheap & nasty Chinese ripoff based on an early GreenAntz design that we shared on github in 2018. Back then we didn't consider it to be of "commerical" quality and were just kicking hobbyists ideas around. It "works", but notably, it has no voltage regulation, no sync clamping and poor signal management throughout, meaning you'll get inconsistent colour depth and may have difficulty getting it to sync properly with some video card/sources.

The latest GreenAntz v1.94 is much improved, made with retrogaming love and care, and comparisons (looking at performance of one, then the other) are like chalk and cheese. Out eyes tend to be very forgiving about poor colour depth/consistency, but you'll see the difference clearly when comparing one after the other. If you haven't guessed by now, I design and make GreenAntz transcoders. Let me know if you're interested.



--- Quote ---but I also have a wakaba VGA to Component transcoder on the way, it should be here in about 3 weeks or so, I had the same thought as you a couple weeks ago.

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The wakaba transcoders from New Zealand are better than the Chinese ones. When it comes in, compare to see why it costs a little more.


Duffy:


--- Quote --- That is not an error message, it is only for information. You can turn it off via setting in mame.ini, though I prefer to leave it on. Just follow the instructions ("press any key to continue") and it will show the game.
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Well I’ll be darned, It works!
 Pressing tab doesn’t bring up the menu though, and escape doesn't quit like it normally does. Also when I direct launchbox to the groovymame mame.exe and try launching a game, i get an error saying it needs elevation? I’m guessing it has to do with privileges, i’ll try this here:


--- Quote --- This would be about user privileges. You need to login as an admin level user or create the appropriate permissions for the current user. I think you can do this by typing WIN+R (run) then type "control userpasswords2", then selecting the user/properties to change group membership
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For whatever reason, after reinstalling Groovymame,  alot of the issues I was having in retroarch went away too, where ps1 and dreamcast stuff was slowing to half their normal refresh rates and getting all choppy, so I’m a happy albeit a little confused camper!


--- Quote --- The latest GreenAntz v1.94 is much improved, made with retrogaming love and care, and comparisons (looking at performance of one, then the other) are like chalk and cheese. Out eyes tend to be very forgiving about poor colour depth/consistency, but you'll see the difference clearly when comparing one after the other. If you haven't guessed by now, I design and make GreenAntz transcoders. Let me know if you're interested
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Oh hell yea gimme! You actually make those? That is actually badass. Let me know what I need to do to get one!

Edit: oh one more thing, i’ve got this orei hdmi splitter that’s in my line

  https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07J2Q9NPH

It’s from the days when I was first starting and just using an hdmi to component scaler. It had a switch labeled EDID that goes from STD to TV, could that cause any problems?


Zebidee:

Sounds like you are having "focus" issues with Launchbox. Can you get it back with ALT+TAB?

Just get GM running properly by itself first. Then worry about Launchbox.

 
--- Quote from: Duffy on July 16, 2024, 02:26:35 pm ---Edit: oh one more thing, i’ve got this orei hdmi splitter that’s in my line

  https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07J2Q9NPH

It’s from the days when I was first starting and just using an hdmi to component scaler. It had a switch labeled EDID that goes from STD to TV, could that cause any problems?


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I'm not familiar with the box. I guess that the switch allows you to choose what EDID signal (monitor or TV) the device reports back to your PC.  It claims to be 4K so I assume that is what it reports as.

If you're not using it ATM then may as well remove it to simplify your setup, eliminate potential problems.

Which raises the question, which video head are you using to output to the transcoder/component TV? The VGA? I assume you also have an LCD monitor or similar for your main display as you're using Launchbox.


Duffy:

Oh yeah GM totally works now through CMD! I’ve never started games like that through CMD, the syntax in Calamity’s sig was a big help, thanks for leading me there. The only thing with it is I can’t use tab to configure controls and stuff, tab just doesn’t work, escape doesn’t either. I can use the gui if i just start mame.exe and can navigate with mouse, and the rest of the keys on my keyboard seem to work but not tab and esc for some reason.

Ok I’ll take the splitter out of the lineup for now.

I’m using the VGA head out. Weird thing is I can use the DVI-I as well through analog0 though. Yea I’m using a 4k LG oled as my other screen.

Zebidee:

Nice setup!


--- Quote from: Duffy on July 17, 2024, 02:02:21 am ---Oh yeah GM totally works now through CMD! I’ve never started games like that through CMD, the syntax in Calamity’s sig was a big help, thanks for leading me there. The only thing with it is I can’t use tab to configure controls and stuff, tab just doesn’t work, escape doesn’t either. I can use the gui if i just start mame.exe and can navigate with mouse, and the rest of the keys on my keyboard seem to work but not tab and esc for some reason.

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 ::) I grew up on command lines and keyboards, Unix, DOS, BASIC etc. I distinctly remember being mildly freaked out by mouses and GUIs when I was about 20-ish years old, working for a company that sold Apple computers to big corporate and government clients. Apple were among the first to bring mouses into that typical office work environment.

Despite my strong computer science background, I did accounting work for them, and ironically used a Unix machine for that (no mouse for me). I did get to take early Apple Macs home to use though - mostly I just improved my mouse skills playing golf games (back then they were new & cool  :afro: ).

That was around 35 years ago, we've come a long way since.

Back on topic...

You can use the mouse in Groovymame, so go to General Settings/Input Assignments (general)/User Interface and check what keys (if any) are assigned to "Config Menu" (should be TAB) and "UI Cancel" (should be Esc). You can change the key assignments here.

A more foolproof method would be to simply reset everything back to default. You can do this by deleting mame.ini and generating a new file with:

mame.exe -createconfig

OR use the shorter alias version

mame.exe -cc

When you create a new mame.ini, you'll also need to run VMMaker again. Simply go into the VMMaker's config GUI and then just click "OK" to close it again. This will make VMMaker re-export the monitor range values into mame.ini, so that Groovymame knows what your CRT can do.

EDIT: You may also need to setup directory locations again (e.g. for ROMs etc.) if you are not using defaults.

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