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Origin of American style (leaf/IL/Happ etc) pushbuttons?
LightningBolt:
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--- Quote from: LightningBolt on July 05, 2024, 10:02:48 am ---The typical round, concave button with a bezel. It just occurred to me that maybe they weren’t invented for arcade games but had existing industrial/commercial use? Anyone know?
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No, they were invented for arcade games and kiosks. Industrial-style buttons are very different.
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Well that's still something similar - kiosks..did they get invented for kiosks first?
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They are an evolution of pinball buttons and totally predate things like kiosks.
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OH of course pinball! I can't believe I didn't think of that first. Thank you.
BadMouth:
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I know...right?!
RandyT:
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on July 06, 2024, 03:43:07 pm ---They are an evolution of pinball buttons and totally predate things like kiosks.
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The first interactive kiosk supposedly happened around 1977, so that is true. I mentioned it because it was an early use for consumer interaction, rather than an "industrial" application. The reliability bar is much lower for non-industrial-use switches like those used in pinball, video games and kiosks. They were/are considerably less costly as a result.
It's also interesting to note that some very early video games (like Computer Space, Space Wars, Tailgunner...) didn't even use the modern button style, so their use in other arcade machines definitely predated the video game genre. Like a lot of things, manufacturers probably settled on the current design because it was already available and in use in the same space by the same consumers. No tooling up costs and arcade clients were used to using them.
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I just saw a photo of 60's era pinball machine. It's interesting to note that they did not yet use the modern button style. The plunger appeared short and flat, and the bezel was virtually non-existent compared to the buttons of today. So it would be interesting to know who originated the newer design and when.
pbj:
Bally was using them in the late 60s. Take a look at Surfer. (1967)
pbj:
Well, the question intrigued me and I needed the mental distraction from Hurricane Beryl..
Looks like Williams switched over between World Cup and Contact in 1978.
Gottlieb used them on their System 80 games, but only for entry of initials. Flipper buttons were still old school. Then they went to buttons that felt old school but appear to have a bezel at some point in there. First button I see that wouldn’t feel weird on an arcade control panel looks like Surf N Safari in 1991.
So from far too much time on ipdb looking at cabinet photos, those are my votes.