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TRON On 412 in 1 - Spinner Connection?
PL1:
--- Quote from: ckalkhof on June 18, 2024, 08:34:14 am ---Has anyone been able to get TRON to work correctly on the 412 in 1 board?
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If TRON doesn't work as well as you like on the 412-in-1, it will probably be because of the controls you're using.
The hardest thing to get right with TRON is the joystick.
- The Light Cycles are 4-way and other levels are 8-way.
Le Chuck used a 4-8 way servo switcher with an AHK script here, but that approach won't work with a 412-in-1.
The original TRON stick had a restrictor that made it easy to hit primary directions, but hard to hit diagonals.
https://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,78233.0.html
You can use these 3d print files to modify a Happ heavy-duty triggerstick to make a TRON stick.
https://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,71229.msg1751695.html#msg1751695
Scott
EDIT: As if on cue, this just popped up in B/S/T.
https://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,168706.0.html
ckalkhof:
This was the joystick I was going to use - it has a restrictor plate: https://thunderstickstudio.com/products/arcade-flight-stick
The big question is still the spinner. It seems no one has gotten TRON to work on the 412 in 1.
PL1:
--- Quote from: ckalkhof on June 18, 2024, 08:03:25 pm ---This was the joystick I was going to use - it has a restrictor plate: https://thunderstickstudio.com/products/arcade-flight-stick
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--- Quote ---4/8 ways manual swappable restrictor gate
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To make it act somewhat like a real TRON stick, you'll need to add some mods like a servo switcher . . .
https://thunderstickstudio.com/products/tos-grs-switchable-4-to-8-way-restrictor-for-grs-flight-stick-extension-kit
. . . and a controller board.
https://thunderstickstudio.com/products/tos-grs-restrictor-controller-board
Pretty sure you can set the controller board so it switches at the press of a button so you can use it with a 412-in-1.
- IIRC you can automate switching for most games on a PC or RasPI, but not on a 412-in-1.
- Pretty sure automated in-game switching for TRON won't work unless you can use a PC or RasPi with an AHK script and .bat files like Le Chuck did.
You'll also need to find an external power source for the servo and controller board -- too much current draw to get it from J6 Pin 1.
--- Quote from: ckalkhof on June 18, 2024, 08:03:25 pm ---The big question is still the spinner. It seems no one has gotten TRON to work on the 412 in 1.
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Just because you aren't seeing any replies doesn't mean that it won't work.
- If a spinner works with any of the games on the system, it will work with all of them once the sensitivity is adjusted.
There have been lots of posts asking how to connect a trackball/spinner to an X-in-1 board, but I don't remember ever seeing a post that ended with someone finding that you couldn't get a trackball/spinner working with it.
Scott
ckalkhof:
Scott -
This is amazing. I had no idea the joystick used 4 then 8 way joystick movements! Now this is really getting to be fun, I love this stuff. Unfortunately, now I have more questions , but I don't want to consume too much of your time.
PL1:
--- Quote from: ckalkhof on June 19, 2024, 10:09:30 am ---I had no idea the joystick used 4 then 8 way joystick movements!
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The difference between a 4-way stick and an 8-way stick is the shape/size of the restrictor plate and/or actuator.
https://slagcoin.com/joystick/restrictors.html
A 4-way will have a diamond or clover-leaf shaped restrictor so you can hit the cardinal directions, but not diagonals.
An 8-way will have a square, circle or octagon restrictor.
The servo-switched ones turn the restrictor 45 degrees to switch between a 4-way diamond and an 8-way square.
The TRON stick has this diamond-shaped urethane restrictor.
- If you press lightly, you don't hit diagonals.
- If you press harder, you can hit diagonals.
The only level that really needs the 4-way is the Light Cycles. If you hit a diagonal, you get a stair-step pattern.
The Battle Tanks level is technically 4-way, but will play OK in 8-way mode.
The I/O Tower and MCP Cone levels are both 8-way.
--- Quote from: ckalkhof on June 19, 2024, 10:09:30 am ---I have more questions
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Ask away. :cheers:
If I take too long answering, you might find the answers in some of the over 1.7 million posts here. :lol
Scott