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| fallacy:
The 4000 series is a complete bust, the price to performance just is not there. It Feels like the graphic card market is like buying a new car, you just need to look on the used market for a deal. You can always buy a new AMD card :puke |
| schmerzkaufen:
B-but 'AI' frame generation ;D I am actually interested in that feature, but that would be for emulation if emulators would start taking advantage of it (simulated CRT motion resolution on normal flat panels? potentially awesome except maybe the lag part). I'd love to own a 4090 but I also kinda want to keep all of my organs. Anyway I can't even begin to imagine the landscape in 10 years, either nVidia control the bulk of the 'AI GPUs' and become the new megacorp buying countries for lunch, or most if every one of those giant businesses and all the techs we know today in the physical realm...will be gone, replaced by giant AI-corp nodes playing a sick game of WW3 with all of humanity as their pawns. |
| nitrogen_widget:
--- Quote from: lilshawn on May 26, 2023, 08:03:09 pm ---That's what you get for using public trained AI. gotta hit up that private stash, ifn' ya' know what I mean. --- End quote --- now i'm imagining all the AI's hanging out like in Altered Carbon. the private one's in the back room doing back room things while the public ones play poker. |
| lilshawn:
--- Quote from: RandyT on May 27, 2023, 11:29:14 am ---Some are speculating that Nvidia will become one of the biggest companies in the world, due to AI. Personally, I have my doubts. --- End quote --- judged by the hardware i saw on the last LTT video i saw, (as grating as he is) it could very well be... sems nvidia has shifted its focus a bit... which is why perhaps the development of their gpus have kind of stalled. coughcoughtiversiononly10percentbettercoughcough |
| RandyT:
--- Quote from: lilshawn on May 30, 2023, 10:43:20 am ---sems nvidia has shifted its focus a bit... which is why perhaps the development of their gpus have kind of stalled. coughcoughtiversiononly10percentbettercoughcough --- End quote --- Nvidia has never really been a "gaming gpu" focused company. They do it really well and it helps to fund the technology, but they have always catered first and foremost to business applications. Gamers get the stripped down stuff, so it doesn't eat into the high dollar market significantly. I guess they didn't want to buy ARM to make gaming GPU's, but everyone knew that. That is an interesting offering. I guess it remains to be seen how well it's accepted in the marketplace and how many gigadollars one of those boxes will cost at the time of deployment. But I also saw a fairly well-reasoned argument for Nvidia's climb to be short lived. The growth and circumstances are extremely similar to what Cisco experienced at the dawn of the Internet bubble. Everyone figured they were unstoppable because they were well established in the driving technologies of Internet. While they had a good couple of years, their stock eventually tanked when more competition arose, and they no longer had a significant stranglehold on the technology. This situation doesn't appear to be significantly dissimilar, unless you believe that only Nvidia is able to pull it off at scale. |
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