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USB I/O gun boards - Friction and Target Terror Gold
purbeast:
I know that USB2GUN is the one board that I've seen discussed to get Happ guns working with a PC.
However I don't have one currently and I actually own Friction and Target Terror Gold board sets and I have their USB I/O boards that interface with the PC that runs the game.
I know TTG runs in Linux so I am not sure if that USB board would work or not, but I am not sure what OS is running Friction under the hood.
I was wondering if either of these USB boards work on a Windows PC running MAME.
I currently have a MAME setup in my KI2 cabinet with a JPAC running GroovyMAME. Is there a simple "test" I could do to try and hook these boards to that PC and just see if it picks up the guns? I am not exactly sure how to hook these boards up to the PC either. Is it just the USB cable? Or that and the VGA cable pass through? I'd have to look at how that would work with the JPAC as well since I know that is already doing something like that.
If anyone has any ideas, that would be great, thanks!
lilshawn:
AFAIK in my primitive testing, the friction game IO boards where using some kind of mouse emulation on them... in my testing you can blindly click around and shoot with a mouse. if there was a reticule you could change the mouse cursor to, you could just play it without guns.
it may be possible to use other mouse emulated gun devices with the game for use with LCD etc.
as for the other IO (service buttons, coin, etc) i believe they are straight up keyboard key strokes.
purbeast:
--- Quote from: lilshawn on May 09, 2023, 12:50:40 pm ---AFAIK in my primitive testing, the friction game IO boards where using some kind of mouse emulation on them... in my testing you can blindly click around and shoot with a mouse. if there was a reticule you could change the mouse cursor to, you could just play it without guns.
it may be possible to use other mouse emulated gun devices with the game for use with LCD etc.
as for the other IO (service buttons, coin, etc) i believe they are straight up keyboard key strokes.
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Thanks for the reply.
What I am mainly asking about is can I use either of the TTG or Friction USB boards to get the Happ light gun games to work on a Windows PC running MAME (or whatever emulator) on my arcade CRT monitor.
I am not interested in hooking up a mouse and playing those games with a mouse or anything.
Sorry if I wasn't making that clear.
lilshawn:
yeah yeah... i was just saying that the IO boards are basically HID devices to windows and will emulate a mouse/keyboard. basically perfect compatibility as far as mame goes. (i think even the coin up and start are standard mame keyboard inputs.)
i'm not real familiar with how the alignment needs to go, since it's part of the game... but it's possible, i think.
don't quite remember exactly how it goes...... our friction machine died about 3 years ago after a flood in our shop, and i worked a while getting another computer up and going for it to run on, then about 6 month later one of the gun inputs stopped working, so we ended up scrapping the cabinet and storing any parts.
purbeast:
--- Quote from: lilshawn on May 09, 2023, 02:26:21 pm ---yeah yeah... i was just saying that the IO boards are basically HID devices to windows and will emulate a mouse/keyboard. basically perfect compatibility as far as mame goes. (i think even the coin up and start are standard mame keyboard inputs.)
i'm not real familiar with how the alignment needs to go, since it's part of the game... but it's possible, i think.
don't quite remember exactly how it goes...... our friction machine died about 3 years ago after a flood in our shop, and i worked a while getting another computer up and going for it to run on, then about 6 month later one of the gun inputs stopped working, so we ended up scrapping the cabinet and storing any parts.
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Oh okay I see what you are saying.
When I have some time I will try to hook them up to the PC I have in my MAME machine and see if I can figure anything out.
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