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Locke141:
Yeah, I used to live in Low.

I was shocked at how much crazy wiring is in developing countries.
lilshawn:
I live in a VERY developed country and people who don't know better/dont give 2 poops do whatever gets them what they want. doesn't matter if it will burn down their house or kill you if you touch these two things at the same time.
bobbyb13:
What's troubling is I see the same ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- here- often.
And there is an established protocol for inspecting builds and remodels too.
It doesn't always happen though of course.
The entirety of the mocern world is fast devolving into a place where barely anyone can/will do anything properly.


--- Quote from: Zebidee on May 01, 2023, 08:32:00 am ---The building is only 5-6 years old. I clearly remember telling the electrician, reminding him, I wanted the grounds hooked up as well. I shouldn't even have to say anything. Why didn't I check this ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- earlier? Why should I have to?

Almost all the electricians around here (rural NE Thailand) just don't care, don't think it is necessary, it isn't their standard. What I don't get though is, I know there is a proper earth ground point at the back, for the aircon, so why the hell don't they just hook it up to that?

If there ever were any people of talent in this town, they long since left, to the big smoke, chasing better money.

Unfortunately it is another example of where, to get something done properly around here, I must become an expert myself and either do it myself, or literally stand over the guy that does it.

The one sparky around here I trust will pop over tomorrow, better check rest of the house too.

[/rant]

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Zebidee:

--- Quote from: bobbyb13 on May 25, 2023, 03:14:59 pm ---What's troubling is I see the same ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- here- often.
And there is an established protocol for inspecting builds and remodels too.
It doesn't always happen though of course.
The entirety of the mocern world is fast devolving into a place where barely anyone can/will do anything properly.

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In terms of standards and protocols, Thailand is pretty fast and loose.

Just got a new room under the house wired up. Instructed and monitored sparky's work and the materials very closely, as I know this guy is a bit dodgy - unfortunately they all are, anybody with real skills goes to work in the Big Smoke (BKK). Local economy, he cost me about $70 for day and a half of work and about the same again in materials (I pay directly). Maybe I could watch some YT tutorials and do it all myself, but would take me 5-10 times as long and I don't have that time. Besides, it is damn hot this time of year and I'd rather avoid working in the heat while saving time for $70.

Time. Choices. $$.
bobbyb13:
Consider that there are only four wires in a normal house in the US.
Unless you live in an industrial zone, and then potentially there might be five in your building because you have a three phase feed.
And unless you have very large motors that run forward and reverse then you still only need four wires anyway.
Every veteran on this forum could safely wire their own home with a few simple tips/caveats.

$70 will only get me for an hour- if I REALLY like you.  :lol
I'm not a paranoid person and still can count the people I trust to do any work for me on one hand.

Bad carpentry exposes itself with a slow list to port or starboard, lame plumbing at the speed of a steady drip...
Inadequate electrical work goes bad at the speed of light, so don't skimp or waste time in checking in on work!
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