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FREE HP Design Jet 6100 Large Format 62" Printer (Nutley, New Jersey)
SNAAKE:
cool thx
anything on the new epson latex printers? I need pure black prints, these random injet printers dont do black it always comes out slightly dark blueish or something lol
lilshawn:
a dye based ink (opposed to a pigment based ink) really helps with the color saturations. still hard because you are trying to cover WHITE to make it black.
if you want REAL black blacks you are looking at toner, which is going to be a physical layer of black material deposited on the surface to get that black black.
"latex" is a new marketing buzzword just meaning it uses water based ink opposed to solvent based inks.
xante uv printers if you are serious about printing since uv cured inks print on... well, quite literally anything.
SNAAKE:
this here?
https://www.xante.com/x16/
RandyT:
--- Quote from: lilshawn on August 16, 2023, 04:09:24 pm ---a dye based ink (opposed to a pigment based ink) really helps with the color saturations. still hard because you are trying to cover WHITE to make it black.
if you want REAL black blacks you are looking at toner, which is going to be a physical layer of black material deposited on the surface to get that black black.
"latex" is a new marketing buzzword just meaning it uses water based ink opposed to solvent based inks.
xante uv printers if you are serious about printing since uv cured inks print on... well, quite literally anything.
--- End quote ---
Actually, pigment-based inks are far superior to dye-based inks if you are after solid, opaque colors, such as black. But you are correct that dye-based inks offer better color reproduction, as the inks will blend more nicely to provide a larger color gamut. Toner is probably the most durable, but the least color-capable.
I also wouldn't sell the latex technology short. Being water-based is quite an advantage, especially where maintenance is concerned, where the solvents for the other types can cost nearly as much as the inks. But the latex stuff is pretty costly and not the most common. I've only had a single test case when I did a sign job for a local grocery store with it, printed through a commercial vendor. The colors were vibrant and durable, and were fade resistant with direct sun for ~5 years, which better than a lot of solvent printers.
But as you stated, UV printers seem to be the king of the game. As they basically deposit a UV-curable polymer and fuse it to the substrate with a high-intensity UV light source, it's probably as close as one is going to get to laser printing with an inkjet, with the benefit of much better color reproduction and the ability to print on anything that doesn't cause the inks to bead. The caveats being the usually considerably higher costs for the machine, due to the need for the curing light source, and sometimes the inks as well. But technically, maintenance should be reduced considerably because the inks don't harden on and in the heads nearly as quickly as those which need only air to make them cure.
SNAAKE:
only xante make those printers or other known brands like epson and cannon gonna release their versions? epson in general has been realible for me things actually...work.
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