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GroovyMAME setup for Dummies?
Zebidee:
Attach a logfile - Calamity's sig explains how to do it via command line.
Siris:
ok, further down the rabbit hole.
I tried running as Administrator and no go, Then I did a logfile and immediately saw the problem.
My new card isn't being recognized.
After I saw that I went back to see where in the setup process it's failing.
Starting fresh again emudriver installs correctly and in device manager the only thing listed under Display adapters is AMD Radeon HD 8570 Graphics (CRT Emudriver).
But upon launching Vmmaker it does not find my card and instead it's listing it as an AMD Radeon R7 200 Series.
I saw in another thread where a guy had a similar issue and Calamity asked what the Device Id was to make sure it was supported, so I'm thinking possibly since this is a rarer Lenovo branded card this is possibly the issue?
Here is what is listed under Hardware Ids in Device Manager for the card.
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6611&SUBSYS_3C791642&REV_00
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6611&SUBSYS_3C791642
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6611&CC_030000
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6611&CC_0300
Hopefully Calamity can chime in and either confirm or deny if this is the issue. :(
abispac:
--- Quote from: Siris on April 16, 2023, 03:53:28 pm ---ok, further down the rabbit hole.
I tried running as Administrator and no go, Then I did a logfile and immediately saw the problem.
My new card isn't being recognized.
After I saw that I went back to see where in the setup process it's failing.
Starting fresh again emudriver installs correctly and in device manager the only thing listed under Display adapters is AMD Radeon HD 8570 Graphics (CRT Emudriver).
But upon launching Vmmaker it does not find my card and instead it's listing it as an AMD Radeon R7 200 Series.
I saw in another thread where a guy had a similar issue and Calamity asked what the Device Id was to make sure it was supported, so I'm thinking possibly since this is a rarer Lenovo branded card this is possibly the issue?
Here is what is listed under Hardware Ids in Device Manager for the card.
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6611&SUBSYS_3C791642&REV_00
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6611&SUBSYS_3C791642
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6611&CC_030000
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6611&CC_0300
Hopefully, Calamity can chime in and either confirm or deny if this is the issue. :(
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Thats not a normal behavior, something tells me that you are missing a step probably?
Heres how i do it every time.
Install windows, either 7 or 10, fully clean, what does fully clean menas? you format your hard drive from the usb/cd whatever you using, and start fresh.
Install windows
Install video card driver, from the amd website. Based on the model of my card.
Install rest of the drivers via, iobit driver installer.
reboot
install directX from microsoft installer
reboot
Download emudrivers and latest groovymame
for your card ill download https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dwjXRFdySz4moxGTGcVWLdQDG-zw5-cJ/view
unpack emudrivers and run the setup installer, that asks you to reboot, then you need to run it againg.
set up the settings as the guide tells you to do so.
http://geedorah.com/eiusdemmodi/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=1052#p1052
Unless you have an r7 video card ebbeded in your system , you shouldnt had any problems after following this.
Remember that when setting up video mode maker, use the option to exports settings to groovy mame.
after finishing generating the video modes, you should be just fine.
I have done this many times and the only card i had problems with was the firepro card, all others have worked just fine.
Zebidee:
I hope Calamity can add something to make sense of the issue.
I still have a niggling suspicion it is something to do with the Lenovo hardware. They are known for built-in security and certain limitations, including compatible GPUs.
Your video card might be perfectly acceptable with normal drivers, but not with CRT_emulator. With respect to Calamity, the drivers are unsigned and Lenovo firmware etc. may be flagging this as an issue.
I have also heard of the Lenovo BIOS & standard PSU imposing a limitation on how much power a card in a PCI-e slot can draw. So maybe it is worth updating the BIOS, maybe later revisions handle the issues better. Maybe a new PSU would help, but of course they are custom/proprietary and a standard ATX PSU (if you can use/adapt it) won't fit inside the case anyway.
So, maybe it is worth considering a different PC altogether.
As noted above, I just finished pulling out and replacing a 20 year old Lenovo ex-desktop SFF from a mate's cab (I built it about 16 years ago). The computer was technically still fine, I think, but the motherboard bricked itself after the CMOS battery failed. There was nothing I could do. With all of these known issues, I would never again buy a Lenovo ex-desktop/corporate PC again, at least not for MAME.
On the other hand, I've found the second-hand HP SFF desktops to be quite flexible and useful. I like the small but sturdy design, can easily carry it under one arm, with easy-to-lift lid and green-tabbed slip-in-out removable components. I use several in cabs etc with XP, Win7 installs all happy. I even updated one to Win10 (HDD died, so replaced with SDD and fresh install of win10) so my mum and bro-in-law can watch Youtube etc.
BTW, it is possible to run full-sized cards in SFF form-factor PCs, but you would need to accommodate the extra height (and length?) of the card, and power requirements. With the Lenovo I used previously, I de-cased the PC completely (into a drawer) and used an external ATX PSU. The video card was a full-sized ArcadeVGA, I just needed to make a custom bracket to secure it at the top (where it screws in).
Siris:
Thanks again guys,
abispac, That is basically exactly what I did when I did the Win. 7 install on a formatted HD.
BTW, Out of curiosity I tried the version of CRT emudriver that you suggested and it doesn't even recognize my card as a compatible card!
Zebidee, Yeah it is a Lenovo issue because it will only let me use a Lenovo card!
Like I said I can get CRT emudriver to install fine and recognize the card correctly as AMD Radeon HD 8570 Graphics (CRT Emudriver), It is even shown as such in Device Manager.
I can get that far with both CRT emudriver 16.2.1 and 18.5.1 both the GCN versions.
It isn't until I open VMM that it doesn't recognize the card and instead reports it as an AMD Radeon R7 200 Series but it also says Device Key not found defaulting to and it picks the first display.
This is the reason I am thinking that the problem is that this cards Hardware ID isn't in the CRT emudriver causing VMM to not recognize it.
I too hope Calamity can add something but If I really need to I will be forced to build a new system! :(
Again, Here is what is listed under Hardware Ids in Device Manager for the card.
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6611&SUBSYS_3C791642&REV_00
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6611&SUBSYS_3C791642
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6611&CC_030000
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6611&CC_0300
Also here is what is listed in GPU-Z for the card with the Win. driver and with both versions of CRT emudriver.
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