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| Help me understand, its crt monitor = no input lag? |
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| lilshawn:
--- Quote from: abispac on February 01, 2023, 02:01:01 pm ---So what do you think, regular mortals that are not aware of this info , complain about? --- End quote --- really, a combination of all the delays from start to finish. a millisecond or two in the input, a millisecond or two in the processing... hell, a driver that is poorly written could add more delay given identical systems. all of this add up to noticable delays. a pile more more in the display and before you know it, you have 60 or 70 some odd ms of delay from button press till something happens. at this point you are looking at an image 4 to 5 frames behind. if a guy can shave 3/4of that off, it's becomes imperceivable. a CRT is a super easy way of doing it. since the lag there is virtually zero. you are going to have varying amounts of opinion as to what amount of lag becomes noticeable. some say up to 100ms of delay is acceptable... while other say literally any is unacceptable. |
| abispac:
Yeah, i think most of us that are not really tech savy, we blame a conbination of everything but really we dont know what cause it. Againg , on my end, ive never notice lag anywhere, and im talking since the beginning of mame, i like to think of it as that maybe if it really theres a lag either on input or video, i can get use to it and play with it with no problem, lets say, to just give an example, lets say such lag is so bad, to a 1 second rate, my brai know i have to press the button 1 second before making a jump or whatever, so i get used to it and i can play along with such lag. Of course there is no 1 second lag, but is just an example so i can explain how i deal with it. hope it makes sense. |
| Gilrock:
Robotron is my #1 game. I've got it on a Pi4 with an LCD screen. I've got it on a Mame PC running Windows 10 with a big TV screen. I've got it on Mister but that setup doesn't have a dual joystick. And I've got my scratch build with a JROK, CRT, and original refurbished joysticks. After playing on the JROK I won't play it anywhere else. I've gone to ZapCon and played on original machines and it felt the same as my JROK setup. In fact the joysticks are highly important. Even on an original machine if the joysticks are worn out or not adjusted properly it will affect your ability to score high. I'm outta practice but a couple years ago I was getting a million minimum on my bad games and my high score was 5 million. That's with difficulty 5, 3 men start, new man every 25,000. If its not an original or a JROK and not those marathon settings I wouldn't even pay attention to someone high score. |
| PL1:
--- Quote from: abispac on February 01, 2023, 01:49:54 pm ---What do you think of the 0 delay usb encoder? its that a good one? --- End quote --- The "Zero Delay" branding implies great performance, but it doesn't exactly deliver. ::) AFAIK the "Zero Delay" encoders are at best a mixed-bag. - The boards have been copied by multiple companies. - Some of those companies use different firmwares with different amounts of lag. There was a site that someone linked to a while back that tested hundreds of encoders for lag, but I haven't been able to find the link. :banghead: Scott |
| abispac:
--- Quote from: PL1 on February 01, 2023, 04:16:51 pm --- --- Quote from: abispac on February 01, 2023, 01:49:54 pm ---What do you think of the 0 delay usb encoder? its that a good one? --- End quote --- The "Zero Delay" branding implies great performance, but it doesn't exactly deliver. ::) AFAIK the "Zero Delay" encoders are at best a mixed-bag. - The boards have been copied by multiple companies. - Some of those companies use different firmwares with different amounts of lag. There was a site that someone linked to a while back that tested hundreds of encoders for lag, but I haven't been able to find the link. :banghead: Scott --- End quote --- Back in the day when i was single and had extra income, yeah i used to buy groovyarcade products, nowdays i choose the 0 delay for its price...some day ill go back to the real quality... |
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