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MrMatt:

I'm now back to fault finding this SSB PC after a couple of months off.  I had quite an ordeal finding parts because our postal system went on strike plus they were overwhelmed at Xmas, so I bought 2 CPUs, one which got lost, another arrived broken.

I bought a whole untested identical motherboard with CPU and RAM which I've just tested in my cab and works.  I put the new CPU into my faulty motherboard and it worked first time, so I figured that my CPU was faulty this whole time.  Put my old CPU into the new motherboard and it worked!

I went back to my old motherboard with my old CPU and it didn't work.  Put the new CPU back in and it didn't work now.  No combination of parts with my old motherboard worked.  My faulty motherboard is again faulty.

So I've now seen this a few times where if my faulty motherboard is left unpowered for a long time, it will boot once and work fine, but it will not boot again.  Any idea what this could be?  I have recapped most of the board, is there a cap which can cause this fault until it is fully discharged?

I have a spare of everything now; 2x motherboards, 2x CPU, 3x RAM, 2x GPU.  The only consistently faulty part seems to be my original motherboard.

What is bothering me is the new motherboard has a bunch of caps which are again swollen, but I don't want to replace them and risk breaking a working system.

Any suggestions about anything are greatly appreciated as always.

TIA.

lilshawn:

ive seen all manner of weird things happen to motherboards. especially once the caps go bad and it stops booting...your chances of resurrection go down significantly.

and yes, i've absolutely seen a board work once and that was it. i ran through 3 motherboards for a game one time for a total bill of just over 1200 bucks. original one died... bought a used one for 550, recapped it... and it worked for 3 days... dead. bought another one 600 ish... booted one time ran for an hour, froze...and that was it. dead.

usually its the regulator FET's that die or the related control circuitry. kinda comes with the club when you use fat 12v rail to power stuff... but then to try and pare it down to 0.5 to 1 volt... when it goes wrong, it really goes wrong.

MrMatt:


--- Quote from: lilshawn on February 07, 2023, 03:39:44 pm ---ive seen all manner of weird things happen to motherboards. especially once the caps go bad and it stops booting...your chances of resurrection go down significantly.

and yes, i've absolutely seen a board work once and that was it. i ran through 3 motherboards for a game one time for a total bill of just over 1200 bucks. original one died... bought a used one for 550, recapped it... and it worked for 3 days... dead. bought another one 600 ish... booted one time ran for an hour, froze...and that was it. dead.

usually its the regulator FET's that die or the related control circuitry. kinda comes with the club when you use fat 12v rail to power stuff... but then to try and pare it down to 0.5 to 1 volt... when it goes wrong, it really goes wrong.

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Thanks.  So should I just toss that faulty motherboard or is there anything to investigate and try to replace?

Would you recap the swollen caps on the new motherboard, or wait?

lilshawn:


--- Quote from: MrMatt on February 07, 2023, 11:11:34 pm ---Thanks.  So should I just toss that faulty motherboard or is there anything to investigate and try to replace?

Would you recap the swollen caps on the new motherboard, or wait?

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given enough time, money, and brute force ignorance... anything is fixable. just have to decide what your time is worth.

Couldn't hurt to recap the new board... since it's likely a used board from who knows where and ran for who knows how long.

MrMatt:


--- Quote from: lilshawn on February 14, 2023, 10:32:39 am ---
--- Quote from: MrMatt on February 07, 2023, 11:11:34 pm ---Thanks.  So should I just toss that faulty motherboard or is there anything to investigate and try to replace?

Would you recap the swollen caps on the new motherboard, or wait?

--- End quote ---

given enough time, money, and brute force ignorance... anything is fixable. just have to decide what your time is worth.

Couldn't hurt to recap the new board... since it's likely a used board from who knows where and ran for who knows how long.

--- End quote ---

So, as expected, I have a new set of problems with this new motherboard!   :laugh:

It seems that every time I boot the PC for a session, it will hang or reset one time after about a minute or two, and then after it boots again it appears to play fine for the rest of the day.

There is a "Cooling System" Icon always showing over the title and attract screen from as soon as it boots which I never saw before on the old motherboard.



I've checked the temps and they seem find except it is missing a fan for Fan 2 and Fan 3 speed is flagging as low rpm.



I haven't changed any settings with the BIOS for this PC, are there some settings I should use?  Can I also update the boot flash screen to the yellow iT Logo that my old system had instead of the Pentium4 flash screen?

Or is this random reset/hanging issue another motherboard recap?? :o

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