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mini-itx, is the move worth it?
Jakobud:
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--- Quote from: Jakobud on March 01, 2004, 02:19:14 pm ---I don't 'think' the mini-itx will give better performance. The 1ghz mini-itx cyrix-ish chip is equivalent in speed to about a p3-450mhz... Would be ideal for classics though.
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Jakobud... I'm curious as to how you arrived at that figure. I know cyrix stuff in the past has been lagging, and yes intel stuff had the fast FPU performance at comprable clockspeeds... but I'm pretty sure these "new" mini-itx via boards perform at comprable "flops" as an intel/AMD counterpart at the same clockspeed.
I don't have one in my possesion yet to give you actual benchmarks... but eventually I will (and will put em a review on Build your own PVR/HTPC community site)
planetjay has one (the via epia m10000 I beleive) and his opinion anecdotally was that it was as fast as a comprably clocked intel/amd system... not to put text in pj's er... mouth... (I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm off the mark)
To the original poster, does your TV have svideo inputs (the mini-itx via epia m10000 does have both rca video out as well as svideo so I'm not sure why I ask)?
Now Transmeta chips are a different story... I've gota 1ghz one of those and was a little dissapointed in the MAME performance on it...
What was the question again? :P
rampy
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Ah thats interesting and encouraging to hear. I was gonna use one in a Mame cab a while back but decided against it when I heard how slow people claimed they were. Maybe i'll have to revisit that idea... I'd love to see some benchmarks on them.
Trenchbroom:
I've been thinking of buying a mini-ITX for a cocktail cabinet project and was curious if anyone has any experience with them in the hot confines of a cocktail cab. I figured that they would be perfect just to screw down on the bottom of the cocktail.
How are they for heat--do they overheat at all?
civic83:
I have one of the older "eden" 533mhz itx boards, it has no fan, and runs about comparable to my old p3 600 rig when paired with the same amount of ram. The video is quite lacking for mainstream pc games but it runs mame ok (all but the newer fighters it seems, which i dont play anyways...)
I think that these boards can't be beat for small minicade style machines
Jakobud:
--- Quote from: Trenchbroom on March 01, 2004, 09:55:29 pm ---I've been thinking of buying a mini-ITX for a cocktail cabinet project and was curious if anyone has any experience with them in the hot confines of a cocktail cab. I figured that they would be perfect just to screw down on the bottom of the cocktail.
How are they for heat--do they overheat at all?
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The boards would work very well in that situation. Most of them (except the high end ones) are totally fanless and have extremely low power requirements and they do not run very hot at all. VIA prides the mini-itx boards as needing very little power and being extremely quiet or totally silent and that they run cool. I very seriously doubt you would run into any heat issues at all.
planetjay:
--- Quote from: rampy on March 01, 2004, 03:25:24 pm ---
--- Quote from: Jakobud on March 01, 2004, 02:19:14 pm ---I don't 'think' the mini-itx will give better performance. The 1ghz mini-itx cyrix-ish chip is equivalent in speed to about a p3-450mhz... Would be ideal for classics though.
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Jakobud... I'm curious as to how you arrived at that figure. I know cyrix stuff in the past has been lagging, and yes intel stuff had the fast FPU performance at comprable clockspeeds... but I'm pretty sure these "new" mini-itx via boards perform at comprable "flops" as an intel/AMD counterpart at the same clockspeed.
I don't have one in my possesion yet to give you actual benchmarks... but eventually I will (and will put em a review on Build your own PVR/HTPC community site)
planetjay has one (the via epia m10000 I beleive) and his opinion anecdotally was that it was as fast as a comprably clocked intel/amd system... not to put text in pj's er... mouth... (I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm off the mark)
To the original poster, does your TV have svideo inputs (the mini-itx via epia m10000 does have both rca video out as well as svideo so I'm not sure why I ask)?
Now Transmeta chips are a different story... I've gota 1ghz one of those and was a little dissapointed in the MAME performance on it...
What was the question again? :P
rampy
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I haven't ran any benchmarks, but my M10000 Seems almost as fast as my Athalon 1700+.
I may test MAME on it one day and see what plays and what doesn't.