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| RandyT:
--- Quote from: Zebidee on September 09, 2022, 05:15:21 pm ---As for the money - there are not-insignificant allowances for this and that but much/most of it comes from their own "old money" investments. Hard life I'm sure :P but nobody wants to see the Queen begging for crusts or doing pole-dances for tips either. --- End quote --- A quick Google search reveals that they cost the British people £102.4 million the last year on record... |
| Zebidee:
uniform :D |
| Zebidee:
£102.4 million - Official expenditure by the monarchy - a rise of £14.9 million or 17% from £87.5 million in 2020/2021. £1.29 - Cost per person in the UK of funding the total Sovereign Grant. 77p - Cost per person of the "core" part of the Sovereign Grant for official duties - not including funds for the long-term Buckingham Palace works. Yes, not-insignificant amounts, about half a cup of cheap coffee. Most countries pay much more to support various highly significant national cultural and traditional institutions. So there is all that, and then there is even a tourism aspect to consider. I would include these aspects if I was to really go and do some kind of value assessment or background report, either for information or advice. It may even be good value for money once you sum all the positive (and negative) externalities, the benefits gained (or costs, like Prince Andrew atm), though that would be impossible to fully "add up" as there are both quantitative and qualitative benefits to consider. Much depends on the incumbents, what they do with their roles/duties, and of course the money they actually have control over. Another Google search The Queen supported over 600 charities and was patron to 510 charities in Britain, including Cancer Research UK, the British Red Cross and Barnado's. She helped raise over $2 billion for over 600 nonprofits during her reign. I'm not trying to be pro-monarchy, or start pointless arguments, but you can't just point at one number and leave it at that. There will be a lot of things (for UK people, not me or anybody in USA or even Canada) to consider in the future. |
| RandyT:
I'll admit it's not all that much per capita. But as for your other data, it sounds like a fair bit of "pro-monarchy propaganda". It assumes that those funds would not have been raised sans her involvement and it's not like she was personally licking envelopes to solicit for donations. But like I said, it's not for anyone but the brits to decide if the monarchy is worth supporting. I know some hate it with a passion because of what it stands for and don't want to pay a penny to support it, while others feel just as strongly in support of it. It would probably be fairer to let the people make the call as to whether or not they want to continue to support it. The fact that they don't do this almost seems like there aren't as many still in support of it as is assumed or propagated. |
| Zebidee:
--- Quote from: RandyT on September 09, 2022, 08:23:27 pm ---I'll admit it's not all that much per capita. But as for your other data, it sounds like a fair bit of "pro-monarchy propaganda". It assumes that those funds would not have been raised sans her involvement and it's not like she was personally licking envelopes to solicit for donations. --- End quote --- You are right to be skeptical. The numbers are headlines from a quick google trawl and deserve a better breakdown of what they mean. But I'm not going to delve into it any further, busy days. Among other things I'm trying to put this Aussie lowboy cab back together so I can take some progress pics. |
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