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fallacy:
lol hacks! They probably have to check every bike now
fallacy:

--- Quote ---My question to you is do you or do you ever expect to ride your bike on treacherous mountain trails?  I have watched videos of some of this and am utterly amazed by the folks who do this and yes, on e-bikes.  I absolutely get why one would want a mid-motor for this kind of activity.  One fraction of a second where it doesn't feel like the bike is exactly linked to the intentions of the rider can have dire consequences.
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treacherous mountain trails? No. Packed gravel trails sure. You need a Mountain E-bike if you want to get into that hobby, a lot of the mountain e-bikes seem to go from 7k to 10k. I was looking into the Surface604 Shred because they are using a hub motor keeping the price down to like $2600. They basically dialed the hub motor to respond to the force of your pedal and not just an on and off state.


I watch videos of people going down these mountains and it looks fun as hell but it is kind of like kayaking down a river. All I see is danger around every action.



fallacy:
Check this crazy bike out. It looks like something Apple would make if they got into making E-Bikes

RandyT:

--- Quote from: fallacy on August 28, 2022, 07:55:02 pm ---Check this crazy bike out. It looks like something Apple would make if they got into making E-Bikes

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Crazy is right.  Looks like some conceptual artist designed this thing and when told by the engineering team that it would have to have a tiny motor, very low capacity battery, no suspension and a high price tag he/she said "no problem" :)

But seriously, it looks like a very good example of form-over-function and seems to be targeting a very niche market.
fallacy:
It is all science, how light can you make every part while still keeping its strength and power. Does this bike look like it succeeds in some areas but fails in others? Like I think he mentioned they were not even tubeless tires so that's a weak point. How strong and light is that motor I don't know. This bike looks like it could have been in the background of Back to the Future 2. That part in Back to the Future 2 when Marty fell in the lake and came out and he hit a button and his jacket started drying; I wish they had the same computer voice over for when he switched gears on this bike.
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