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Auto Switching 4-8 way gates for joysticks - Glens Retro Show
« on: January 08, 2022, 04:25:31 pm »
this will be coming out later this year.

an auto switching, or manual switch for 4 way to 8 way joystick

50 minute mark:



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Re: Auto Switching 4-8 way gates for joysticks - Glens Retro Show
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2022, 06:16:26 pm »
The way he said "auto-switch" made me think you still need to press a button? 

EDIT: Well, he says if the software supports it so I assume it will switch automatically using MAME like a ServoStik does. 
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Re: Auto Switching 4-8 way gates for joysticks - Glens Retro Show
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2022, 02:53:42 pm »
The way he said "auto-switch" made me think you still need to press a button? 

EDIT: Well, he says if the software supports it so I assume it will switch automatically using MAME like a ServoStik does.

50:18 he says that you'd press a button to switch

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Re: Auto Switching 4-8 way gates for joysticks - Glens Retro Show
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2022, 04:22:08 pm »
The way he said "auto-switch" made me think you still need to press a button? 

EDIT: Well, he says if the software supports it so I assume it will switch automatically using MAME like a ServoStik does.

50:18 he says that you'd press a button to switch

51:14 he says if your machine supports it they have a driver which will do it automatically all by itself.  Whatever that means.  Really curious about price on this.  If it is cheaper than a ServiStik and works exactly like one it could good to throw into some low-budget cabs.

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Re: Auto Switching 4-8 way gates for joysticks - Glens Retro Show
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2022, 04:32:06 pm »
Hopefully it plays better than a servo stick.

They ---smurfing--- suck.

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Re: Auto Switching 4-8 way gates for joysticks - Glens Retro Show
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2022, 06:35:05 pm »
It supports
- manual switching with an iluminated arcade button that changes color to indicate actual orientation
- automated switching, based on selected game for Retropie platforms (while manual operation is still possible to overrule)
- automated switching, based on selected game on Windows platforms (-"-)
- comes with free configuration utility to configure appearance (color scheme button, repurpose of button, fine tune orientation degree...)

The price will be lower than the competition.

BR Stefan Burger (the guy Glen mentions at 51:50)
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Re: Auto Switching 4-8 way gates for joysticks - Glens Retro Show
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2022, 07:47:58 am »
Short Update:

A first limited batch will be sold over Amazon, starting in mid February (afterwards selling will continue via a new online store).

All in One Kit
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09R3SDY8G?fbclid=IwAR0NBcS_jjQr11gfFeM0t037OKm49Tb6g7QQSlpZe6zpQ8OvMZWX0ex7R0E

Extension Kit
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09R3V158M?fbclid=IwAR33KiUi2T3aL8bb0AnxVtHYCjcs3sfp4CrVXOteWeuN0lZYCrdrSiGbVIU

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Re: Auto Switching 4-8 way gates for joysticks - Glens Retro Show
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2022, 09:34:17 pm »
I will be buying a few of these.. I am a little confused by what the difference is..  I will need one for my GRS Tron Stick and 2 for one control panel and then 2 more, each for its own control panel, any advice on which items I should order?

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Re: Auto Switching 4-8 way gates for joysticks - Glens Retro Show
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2022, 06:31:54 am »
I will be buying a few of these.. I am a little confused by what the difference is..  I will need one for my GRS Tron Stick and 2 for one control panel and then 2 more, each for its own control panel, any advice on which items I should order?

-Zeosstud

Well we actually start with 2 packages, both for Sanwa compatible joysticks (compatible in terms of restrictor plate mount):

  • All-in-One Kit: contains everything to support 1 cabinet with 1 Sanwa compatible joystick (1 motorized restrictor, 1 2-in-1 arcade button, 1 microcontroller board, 1 Micro-USB cable, 1 JST-cable, printed manual). The price is not yet final it might be subject to change but a reasonalbe forecast is somewhere around 30 US$.
  • 2-in-1 Kit: this is an extension kit to the all-in-one, it provids support for one additional joystick and 2-in-1 button within a cabinet. It includes 1 additional motorized restrictor, 1 additional 2-in-1 arcade button, wire harness and a printed manual. The price is not yet final and might be subject to change but a reasonable forecast is somewhere around 17 US$.

The software packages for automatization and configuration are free downloads

We already have working prototypes for the GRS Tron stick, but those are not yet in production but are planned for release later this year.

Here is a short video, showing the prototypes for Sanwa and GRS Tron stick:


Here is a short video, showing the usage and functionality of the configuration utility:


BR
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Re: Auto Switching 4-8 way gates for joysticks - Glens Retro Show
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2022, 02:34:30 am »
more comprehensive video:



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Re: Auto Switching 4-8 way gates for joysticks - Glens Retro Show
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2022, 06:51:42 pm »
I think it is kind of interesting that the idea was originally a fix for the Tron stick, but is being released first for the Sanwa sticks..  I have a need for both, so I am super happy this is going to be hitting the market in any form, will simplify my control panel layouts a lot.. As someone who will not make a control panel for a arcade cab with a horizontal screen that can not play Robotron, this solves so much. Yes I have a dedicated Robotron, with sticks I like a lot with a JROK, but I have 2 other cabs where this solution would have saved me some design issues and money.. I like a Sanwa joystick with a 2.5 or 3 pound spring. Hope you guys sell a bunch of these and they hold up for a long time.

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Re: Auto Switching 4-8 way gates for joysticks - Glens Retro Show
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2022, 09:19:17 pm »
I can asure you that is not the case. I already developed and distributed the Sanwa version when Glen Planamento approached me and asked to develop also a Tron compatible version. I have YouTube videos for the Sanwa version dated long before I or Glen released the first videos for the Tron version.

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Re: Auto Switching 4-8 way gates for joysticks - Glens Retro Show
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2022, 09:41:52 pm »
Hey even better.. I will be buying a number of all of them.. :-)

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Re: Auto Switching 4-8 way gates for joysticks - Glens Retro Show
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2022, 08:28:08 am »
What springs do you use in your joysticks?  I have read the stock springs/throw in the Sanwa sticks aren't that great with classic arcade games.  Is there an adapter plate on the market for use in a Midway Ms Pac control panel?

I am definitely down on buying some of these to try on my upcoming projects - great work.

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Re: Auto Switching 4-8 way gates for joysticks - Glens Retro Show
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2022, 10:30:11 am »
The joystick is not part of the product. It is a drop in replacement for Sanwa compatible joystick restrictors. You can combine it with any joystick of your choice, as long as the restrictor mount at the bottom is Sanwa compatible.

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Re: Auto Switching 4-8 way gates for joysticks - Glens Retro Show
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2022, 06:44:31 pm »
They are here!!


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Re: Auto Switching 4-8 way gates for joysticks - Glens Retro Show
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2022, 06:52:56 pm »
They are here!!
Cool - didnít see that they were up for already.  Test them and report back!

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Re: Auto Switching 4-8 way gates for joysticks - Glens Retro Show
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2022, 03:56:10 am »
They are here!!

Be aware of the configuration utility that allows to finetune the restrictor orientation if needed and also to customize the color settings:
https://thunderjoystick.com/products/GRS-TOS/tos428config_setup.zip

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Re: Auto Switching 4-8 way gates for joysticks - Glens Retro Show
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2022, 08:10:32 am »
What springs do you use in your joysticks?  I have read the stock springs/throw in the Sanwa sticks aren't that great with classic arcade games.  Is there an adapter plate on the market for use in a Midway Ms Pac control panel?

I am definitely down on buying some of these to try on my upcoming projects - great work.
I like both a 2.5lb and 3.0lb spring as a replacement for what comes as default, sadly right this moment I can not remember which ones I am using.. :-(

Plan on doing some work with these this weekend, will see how it all turns out. I have a mister pedestal that I want to redo the control panel on to make it much more 2 player friendly.

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Re: Auto Switching 4-8 way gates for joysticks - Glens Retro Show
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2022, 05:43:34 pm »
Got this all hooked up and working.. Really cool..  Now I need to drill out a new control panel which will have to wait as the wife is painting stuff and would kill me if I created any dust right now. But it is useable as it sits, just ugly.. You can see I used to have the far left and far right joysticks up above the modified Stargate button layout, this allowed me to play Robotron and allowed me to use the right Robotron joystick and button for 2 player games, specifically Joust, Mario Bros, Wizard of Wor and Tetris. Thing is it was not very comfortable for 2 players because the player on the left stood pretty close to the middle, now however, I can lower the far left and right joysticks and spread them out, now 2 people should be much more comfortable using this setup and with the push of a button, I can still play Robotron. So, clearly Sanwa joysticks with the original square gate are not Gods gift to Robotron, that is why I have a dedicated Robotron cabinet, with proper leaf switches, but in a pinch, this will get the job done.

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Re: Auto Switching 4-8 way gates for joysticks - Glens Retro Show
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2022, 05:50:14 pm »
What springs do you use in your joysticks?  I have read the stock springs/throw in the Sanwa sticks aren't that great with classic arcade games.  Is there an adapter plate on the market for use in a Midway Ms Pac control panel?

I am definitely down on buying some of these to try on my upcoming projects - great work.
I like both a 2.5lb and 3.0lb spring as a replacement for what comes as default, sadly right this moment I can not remember which ones I am using.. :-(

Plan on doing some work with these this weekend, will see how it all turns out. I have a mister pedestal that I want to redo the control panel on to make it much more 2 player friendly.

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Thanks man