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Matrix 4 did not need to be made
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shponglefan:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on December 27, 2021, 09:09:51 pm ---I still don't get the matrix love.   The film had a pretty basic plot and the visuals are 100% meh.
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The original Matrix was a pretty stock "hero's journey" storyline, but it worked in the context of the film and especially with respect to the action. The action sequences were nicely tied to Neo's character arc, something that can't be said for the sequels.

The "bullet time" special effects were revolutionary at the time. Even the CG holds up since it focused on environmental backgrounds rather the sequels where they went into uncanny valley territory with the characters.

It was also notable for the main actors learning the fight choreography and doing a lot of their own stunts. This allowed fight scenes to be filmed with wide shots and longer takes, unlike the shaky-cam and jump cuts of many modern action scenes. The action sequences still hold up today.

There was also the "What is the Matrix?" marketing angle. I still remember going into the theater not knowing what the movie was about and being genuinely surprised by it. A modern trailer would probably give away all the plot points.
leapinlew:
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leapinlew:
I let myself think about it for a while. I really try to let myself get lost in the movies nowadays, and not let them be taken to seriously, but hot damn I love The Matrix and this movie was a big disappointment to me. It took a day to get my thoughts in order. I'll air my grievances Festivus style, in a bulleted list:


* Filmography - no bullet time, or any other attempts at ground breaking filming. It's funny, because they copied their own slow motion bullets dropping from the helicopter, but not some of the other cool effects from The Matrix.
* Fight scenes - this was the fast cut scene type of fighting, which was very difficult to keep up with what was going on and was more inline with other action movies and not the Matrix.
* Story - this was the biggest yawn. I found myself checking the time. The most appealing part of the movie is when they were explaining what happened in the last 60 years.
* Acting - the last scene when Neo and Trinity are talking is terrible. Not sure what else to say, but the rainbows in the sky conversation just felt like such a forced attempt at humor.
* Smith - new Agent Smith is lame. Not sure if I understand how he was even there and the fact he was calling Neo "Tom" instead of "Mr. Anderson" was disappointing.
* Stopping bullets - Neo looked like a crazy person waving his hands around to stop bullets
* Trinity is the One of Two? - Not sure this matters at all? What are we saying that old Trinity is also the one in the new Matrix? If we are, does that even matter? It just wasn't as big of a reveal as I think they were hoping.

All in all - not sure what was trying to be accomplished with this movie. Totally agree with Opt2Not, and not in a my_expectations_were_too_high kind of way. It's just a mess. I kind of wrote off the 2nd and 3rd Matrix movies so I could let the original stand on its own for the masterpiece it is. I guess I'm going to write off the 4th movie as well.
shponglefan:

--- Quote from: fallacy on December 27, 2021, 10:49:35 pm ---They messed up when they made Neo all powerful at the end, all good Shonen anime only has the protagonist increase his power by a little so they can have future adventures and new bosses to fight.
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Yeah, this was the biggest issue with the sequels. Neo was so overpowered that the action sequences were devoid of any tension and his character growth was effectively halted.
Mike A:
The biggest surprise for me is that any of you watched it.
Did anyone expect it not to suck?
Seriously?
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