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Singularity - Modern Sit Down Modular Twin Stick Shooter Cabinet
« on: September 03, 2021, 09:03:43 am »
It's been a long time since I completed my previous projects and I've recently been itching to try and do something a little different. The intention is to build a modern looking, sit down cabinet with swapable CPs predominantly for use with Steam / PC based games (arcade / high score ones). There have been a number of twin stick shooters which I've enjoyed which got me thinking about making a dedicated CP for them. Trying to get all this configured was always a concern but I've managed to get this up and running fairly simply.

I've purchased a couple of the Ultimarc UltraStik 360FS flightsticks (fully analogue) to do this with an additional keyboard encoder (yet to arrive). I've managed to combine the pair of 360FS using the vjoy and JoystickGremlin software, present it as a single virtual joystick to Steam and then use Steam's own configuration software to map it to an xbox 360 style device. It seems to be working well, albeit with a limited set of buttons. Everything is simply sat on my desk at present whilst I'm testing it all out but I'll be building a prototype panel shortly.





I have a few rough sketches for the cabinet style but think 'stealth bomber' and that's the general aesthetic I'll be aiming for.
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Re: Modern Sit Down Twin Stick Shooter Cabinet
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2021, 07:30:57 pm »
FIRST!

Can't wait to watch the progress on this, you always have the best builds.
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Re: Modern Sit Down Twin Stick Shooter Cabinet
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2021, 07:41:15 am »
FIRST!

Can't wait to watch the progress on this, you always have the best builds.

You're too kind! There are loads of really good craftspeople out there and the project quality seems to be improving all the time.

I knocked up a test frame this morning so I can try out the configuration for a couple of weeks before committing to a CP build. The joystick encoder should be arriving shortly so I'll be able to wire it all up.



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Re: Modern Sit Down Twin Stick Shooter Cabinet
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2021, 11:52:08 am »
My joystick encoder arrived:



Stick and buttons hooked up on the test panel. Working now in all Steam twin stick shooter games:


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Re: Modern Sit Down Twin Stick Shooter Cabinet
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2021, 09:03:35 am »
Just getting an idea down as to the shape of this thing so there will be some fine tuning.

This will be going up a flight of stairs so will be making it modular for ease of transport. So 4 sections: base, control panels - there will be several , screen and audio, marquee. I'll be using knurled clamping knobs and threaded inserts to clamp the sections together. I used these quite effectively to clamp my HOTAS mounts onto the the arms of a Poang chair recently.



The 'joins' between the sections will be recessed slightly and I may add some recessed acrylic / artwork to the sides in the monitor/audio panel, something I've done before. Not sure on this yet though:



It will be finished in a robust flat black paint (as per the mounts in the previous picture) and will not include any t-molding - all of the joins will be squared off with a minimum amount of rounding on the edges. I hope that this, in conjunction with the flat black, will give the impression of weight and solidity.

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I'm currently thinking about the colour scheme and design for the control panels and marquee. I also have to come up with a name. 

I do have a spare 27 inch G-Sync monitor which I'll be using for the build. I'd like the black level to be slightly darker than it is - does anyone have any experience on using tinted glass or acrylic to help with this?

I've also applied a small amount of silicone grease to one the u360FS's as after a bit of use, it was 'creaking' a little. It's now gone and feels nice and fluid.
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Re: Modern Sit Down Twin Stick Shooter Cabinet
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2021, 03:16:36 pm »
After using the prototype panel for a couple of weeks, I'm happy that it's a workable solution. It's now time to start working on the cabinet.

After messing around with the design a little, I've decided to go with a flat bottom to the base unit.

There'll be quite a bit of filling and sanding to do on this project.



If the weather's good tomorrow, I'll start on the middle, screen segment.

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Re: Modern Sit Down Twin Stick Shooter Cabinet
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2021, 06:55:47 pm »
Excited to see your work on this!
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Re: Modern Sit Down Twin Stick Shooter Cabinet
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2021, 06:19:08 am »
Cheers bobby!  :cheers:

Thinking about a name / marquee for this. I think something simple will fit.



I like the font with 'gaps' as the cabinet will have that appearance also.
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Re: Modern Sit Down Twin Stick Shooter Cabinet
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2021, 07:31:27 am »
I've cut the main panels for the middle section. Will start assembling this soon. I will obviously need to make the cut-outs for the monitor and speaker system.



I'm thinking about one of these for the sound:



I'll be making a speaker grill for it out of black acoustic cloth.

I'm glad I'm making this modular as the base is already pretty heavy without the back panel on and it's going upstairs.

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Re: Modern Sit Down Twin Stick Shooter Cabinet
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2021, 09:34:03 am »
Middle section assembled - minus the cut-outs.



Looking fairly chunky which is what I was going for. The marquee section, which protrudes from the top, will change the appearance a lot.
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Re: Modern Sit Down Modular Twin Stick Shooter Cabinet
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2021, 01:22:50 pm »
This is looking really rad. I'm looking forward to watching your progress.

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Re: Modern Sit Down Modular Twin Stick Shooter Cabinet
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2021, 08:10:45 pm »
Off to a great start.  Design looks unique.  Your place is rad by the way.

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Re: Modern Sit Down Modular Twin Stick Shooter Cabinet
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2021, 01:18:30 pm »
This is looking really rad. I'm looking forward to watching your progress.

Appreciate that. Thanks Goblin.

Off to a great start.  Design looks unique.  Your place is rad by the way.

Thanks for the comment javeryh :cheers:

Managed to get out briefly after work to cut a couple of side pieces for the marquee section. I went a bit taller (5 cm) to avoid the marquee itself being too thin. I may review though.





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Re: Singularity - Modern Sit Down Modular Twin Stick Shooter Cabinet
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2021, 02:48:06 pm »
I really like the look of the cabinet in this design.  Feels very futuristic to me.  Your previous projects in your signature look amazing so I can't wait to see what this turns out like.  Only thought would be a tipping concern based on how much the CP is standing out in your sketch.  I know MDF is heavy stuff, but still looks like it would easily tip to me.  How do you plan to counter balance it?

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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2021, 03:21:35 pm »
I really like the look of the cabinet in this design.  Feels very futuristic to me.  Your previous projects in your signature look amazing so I can't wait to see what this turns out like.  Only thought would be a tipping concern based on how much the CP is standing out in your sketch.  I know MDF is heavy stuff, but still looks like it would easily tip to me.  How do you plan to counter balance it?

Thanks for the kind words, appreciated  :cheers: You got me thinking about this! Without the CP, there will be substantially more mass to the aft of the cab based on where the middle of the base is.



The CP will have relatively little mass. I believe the only way this would tilt realistically in a real world situation is if I sat on the end of the CP!

Edit:

After thinking about this further, I realised it's about the fulcrum (the green dot).



I'd need to apply sufficient downward force to lift up pretty much the entire weight of the cabinet. I think the lever (the CP) would need to extend much further for tilting to become an issue.

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Re: Singularity - Modern Sit Down Modular Twin Stick Shooter Cabinet
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2021, 06:59:16 pm »
Still designing and building awesome arcade machines!  Excellent.

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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2021, 10:04:18 am »
That profile is beautiful.  Looking forward to following this one.

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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2021, 12:39:10 pm »
That profile is beautiful.  Looking forward to following this one.

Thank you. Hope it turns out as I hope. It'll all depend on the finish  :)

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As are you!! Cheers Ond  :cheers:

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Re: Singularity - Modern Sit Down Modular Twin Stick Shooter Cabinet
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2021, 11:59:13 am »
I'd taken the day off work and the weather was kind so managed to make some more progress with the marquee section. I also managed to get the cut-outs done for the monitor and sound bar. There' a bit of adjustment to do and I need to fit the diagonals I've cut (I'm am waiting for the glue to dry before I attach them).

It's starting to take some shape now.





Quite pleased with the progress do far.

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Re: Singularity - Modern Sit Down Modular Twin Stick Shooter Cabinet
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2021, 12:02:36 pm »
Wow.  Looks incredible so far.  You work so fast too.  A day off of work is a good idea.  Hard to get anything done otherwise!  What kind of artwork/finishing do you have planned?

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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2021, 12:22:41 pm »
Wow.  Looks incredible so far.  You work so fast too.  A day off of work is a good idea.  Hard to get anything done otherwise!  What kind of artwork/finishing do you have planned?

Cheers for that javeryh  :cheers:

The finish is going to be a 'nearly' flat black - if you look at the speakers on my desk, that's the finish I'm after.

For the artwork, I want something simple but not boring and uninspired. I'm still throwing a few ideas around.

For the CP, I'd always REALLY liked markc74's Blip. I may pinch a few ideas from that in terms of the layout. I will be covering the CP artwork with acrylic though.

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« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2021, 06:30:04 am »
Despite the constant rain, I've managed to get a few more bits done. The support rails and base have been fitted which will allow me to start working on the control panel(s).



The idea will be that the CP's slot into place and clamp in to the support section from underneath to secure them. I will make a shroud to cover the support extension at the front between the main cabinet and the CPs.
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« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2021, 04:43:16 am »
Working on the marquee atm. I want something simple to match the cabinet (using black, white and a touch of red) but this may be too much.

Happy for ideas / input here!

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« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2021, 07:11:01 am »
Why singularity?

It is a two stick cab as the defining feature.

Maybe binary?


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« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2021, 07:49:35 am »
Why singularity?

It is a two stick cab as the defining feature.

Maybe binary?

Thanks for the input on this. The name was to tie in with the sci-fi / space theme that a lot of twin-stick shooters have. Agreed, it would be good if it didn't have 'singular' as part of the name although this cab and the CPs will be mainly for a single player setup.

The name will require to fill most of the marquee section as well.

I had considered 'Monolith', with reference to 2001, as the final finish will be fairly 'stealth' and monochromatic in nature. That has the word mono in it though  :dunno
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« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2021, 08:28:42 am »
Binary is very sci-fi.

Most stars are part of binary systems.


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« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2021, 09:01:56 am »
I like the font.

It looks good for a marquee.

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« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2021, 09:06:35 am »
Cheers ... and the name is growing on me   :)
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« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2021, 11:45:15 am »
Nice!  Regarding the name, I think you're overthinking it.  The cabinet name technically is pretty much always about the game(s) it plays, not how many controls it used.  ;)   I can't wait to play me some 2 stick spin spin. :)

I would just go with whatever you think best fits your theme and is to your liking.  Either one is sci fi and works  I like your font and red accent color in the logo.

Regarding the build itself, it continues to look great, but slow down man!  You're making some of us look bad.   :cheers:


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« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2021, 11:11:14 am »
Nice!  Regarding the name, I think you're overthinking it.  The cabinet name technically is pretty much always about the game(s) it plays, not how many controls it used.  ;)   I can't wait to play me some 2 stick spin spin. :)

I would just go with whatever you think best fits your theme and is to your liking.  Either one is sci fi and works  I like your font and red accent color in the logo.

Regarding the build itself, it continues to look great, but slow down man!  You're making some of us look bad.   :cheers:



I guess you're right re the name - I'm not going agonize any further over that for the time being  :cheers:

Re the speed of construction - I'm expecting the real time to be spent in getting the finish of this complete - it'll likely take twice the time it takes to build it to get that done so visible progress will slow down a little. Hoping to get it all complete by Xmas (including 2 or 3 control panels).
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« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2021, 01:29:58 pm »
What kind of finish are you looking to achieve?  I suspect you want to take it from raw timber to some smooth black?  A bit like I did on my media server.  From this:


To this:


That's how I imagine it anyway...

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« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2021, 03:51:18 pm »
What kind of finish are you looking to achieve?  I suspect you want to take it from raw timber to some smooth black?  A bit like I did on my media server.  From this:


To this:


That's how I imagine it anyway...

Yes, this is exactly it! Any top tips from the god amongst us?
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« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2021, 04:42:04 pm »
You've already gotten excellent results on your other signature projects. I really like that style of smooth near flat black finish.  It does take a lot of work though.  Tips for that type of finish? I guess they would be:

1. Use quality automotive paints - especially the primer.  Most of the work is in preparatory surface finish with multiple primer coats.
2. Spray don't roll, unless you want a textured finish.
3. Allow plenty of drying time between final paint coats
4. Wet sand to 400-600 grit before final coats.

Looking forward to seeing this project advance!   :cheers:
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« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2021, 12:33:31 pm »
You've already gotten excellent results on your other signature projects. I really like that style of smooth near flat black finish.  It does take a lot of work though.  Tips for that type of finish? I guess they would be:

1. Use quality automotive paints - especially the primer.  Most of the work is in preparatory surface finish with multiple primer coats.
2. Spray don't roll, unless you want a textured finish.
3. Allow plenty of drying time between final paint coats
4. Wet sand to 400-600 grit before final coats.

Looking forward to seeing this project advance!   :cheers:

Thanks. Appreciate the response and tips here. Keep doing what you're doing Ond  :cheers:

Managed to get some of the CP assembled before the rain. There's quite a bit more to do to complete it.

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« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2021, 09:36:26 am »
I was considering adding a wheel panel to this build and figured I needed to make absolutely sure that the base/retainer for the control panels was as sturdy as possible. I extended the top of the base section out to add some additional strength to it. I also routed out a couple of millimetres of one of the panels so it was level with the metal supports ensuring that there's a solid and firm connection between it and the control panels.



The interchangeable control panel always going to be a bit fiddly. Currently assembling the side walls that will be glued and screwed in place. This will be covered by a separate side panel piece.





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« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2021, 10:35:14 am »
I would like more photos of your view outside that window.

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Re: Singularity - Modern Sit Down Modular Twin Stick Shooter Cabinet
« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2021, 10:45:17 am »
I would like more photos of your view outside that window.

Here you go. Taken just now.



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« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2021, 02:43:14 pm »
Wow.  I think I have to drive an hour minimum to see open space like that. 

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Re: Singularity - Modern Sit Down Modular Twin Stick Shooter Cabinet
« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2021, 02:49:09 pm »
Wow.  I think I have to drive an hour minimum to see open space like that.

Yes, we're really lucky to have this view - it's the reason we moved here!

Coming together:



I reckon a 2 or 3 more weekends and I should have the cabinet ready for finishing - weather permitting!
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