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| pbj:
Loudest thing I’ve ever heard in my life was two startled macaws in an outside cage when their owner said “go look at my parrots” and I’ve been to a Slayer concert and air shows for comparison. My eye balls literally vibrated and I thought I was going to ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- myself. I probably did go do a maintenance wipe. I mean those ---daisies--- gave me everything they had from two feet away. What speakers can recapture this? |
| bobbyb13:
--- Quote from: pbj on September 28, 2021, 11:05:58 pm ---Loudest thing I’ve ever heard in my life was two startled macaws in an outside cage when their owner said “go look at my parrots” and I’ve been to a Slayer concert and air shows for comparison. My eye balls literally vibrated and I thought I was going to ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- myself. I probably did go do a maintenance wipe. I mean those ---daisies--- gave me everything they had from two feet away. What speakers can recapture this? --- End quote --- :laugh2: |
| RandyT:
--- Quote from: Ond on September 28, 2021, 05:47:12 pm --- --- Quote from: Xiaou2 --- I can only assume that you have Never heard an Audiophile level headphone before. --- End quote --- The experience of hearing high-end speakers above the 10K mark is more than what you hear but what you feel bodily as well, which no headphones at any price can duplicate i.e. physics. --- End quote --- At least someone understands. It's not above the 10k mark, but my 600watt powered sub delivers bass which can literally knock the dust out of my ceiling tiles when my volume finger gets itchy. When a drummer nails that 25+" bass drum, it sends out a shock wave which passes over your entire body. Listening to that same sound in headphones is like hearing a band playing from the nosebleed seats, as opposed to being in the third row. And don't even get me started on the inability of such small drivers to adequately reproduce home theater effects the likes of explosions, jet engines, etc... And then there is the whole "ambiance" argument. In most cases, sound doesn't travel in a straight line to your eardrums. It reflects off of surfaces in the room, creating a presence which is wholly artificially approximated with even the best "3D" headphones. To my ears, a well-tuned room setup with appropriately sized speakers, sounds much more natural than the results of trying to replicate what a studio sound engineer heard at the control panel. This is starting to sound like the debate over pixels in old arcade graphics being displayed on LCD panels. The goal isn't to precisely isolate 1's and 0's, it's to re-create the feeling of being in the room where the band is performing. I use headphones when I am looking for subtleties, like the footsteps of an approaching enemy player. I don't listen to music with them and gifting me $500 headphones won't change that :) |
| Mike A:
500 dollars? pffft. Do you guys even audiophile? You aren't even hearing real sound until you spend 70 grand on speaker cables. And you don't even hear the real lyrics to songs on anything less that ten thousand dollar headphones. On lesser equipment you are just hearing what the Trilateral Commission wants you to hear. |
| pbj:
I knew a guy in the 90s that had two speakers used for symphonies and operas. He was a huge opera fan. Flew to the Met several times a year, that kind of whackadoo. The price I was told was "over $10,000 each" but $10,000 dollars is one of those sticky dollar amounts we slap on everything we can't properly value. Like, "if you break that pacman, it'll cost you $10,000" or "if you break the bowling pin machine, that will be $10,000." I've been threatened with $10,000 penalties my entire life. So, who the hell knows but he wasn't ostentatious and someone crazy enough to fly to New York several times a year is just crazy enough to spend that kind of 90s money. The only thing particularly notable about them was the sound was... full? even out in his damn front yard with just the front door open. And not "loud." You could comfortably talk over it. Louder up closer, obviously, but never like rattle the windows. And I'll go with that other sticky dollar amount that buyers always use and say, eh, I'd give you $500 for it. :dunno |
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