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Issues with JVL Retro Machines
« on: June 25, 2021, 12:05:27 pm »
This is my first post here, as I was referred to AracadeControls.com from a KLOV member, where I've also posted my issues so far.  So, hello everyone!

Anyways, I have 4 JVL Retros that are all experiencing some sort of issue.  Two of them quickly stop upon boot-up at the error, "can't load sound driver snd-intel18x0."  One loads about 1/5th through the JVL loading screen and then crashes on the error, "I/O board is NOT found!" and 1 makes it to a low battery error, followed by a machines locked error.  I have swapped boards around in all of them trying to troubleshoot things, but am always left with the same error based on the specific motherboard that I'm using.  I figured I may have the best luck with the "Machine Locked" JVL so picked up a itouch10 cd for a factory reset (all 4 JVLs are using an itouch10 button).  I tried hooking a usb cd-player to this JVL, but I think that cd-rom drive is bad as it sounded like it was just starting and stopping over and over, so then tried to create a bootable USB from windows.  I've tried 3 different usbs and several windows machines and every time I tried to create a bootable thumbdrive from the CD, the program will immediately come up with an error saying the "checking operation failed."  At this point, I have no idea where to go, so any advice would be awesome.

On another note, this whole experience began when I was on a search to replace a bad inverter board on my Megatouch Force made in 2005, so if anyone knows of where I find an affordable one of these, please let me know.

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Issues with JVL Retro Machines
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2021, 05:13:22 pm »
Get yourself a CF card reader and use USBIT ( Usb Image Tool) its free. And install this image to your CF card.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/74co43mk0ncksi1/iTouch10_CF_Image.img/file

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Re: Issues with JVL Retro Machines
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2021, 06:22:08 pm »
Get yourself a CF card reader and use USBIT ( Usb Image Tool) its free. And install this image to your CF card.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/74co43mk0ncksi1/iTouch10_CF_Image.img/file

Awesome, downloading now and will update later when I get the CF back in the machine.

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Re: Issues with JVL Retro Machines
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2021, 07:10:11 pm »
mahkeymike is my hero.  :cheers:

Going to do this with my other CFs over the weekend and see if that knocks out any of the other issues I'm experiencing with the other JVLs.

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Re: Issues with JVL Retro Machines
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2021, 03:07:15 pm »
So I re-flashed all my other drives, but unfortunately am met with the same errors, 2 still giving me the sound driver error and 1 giving me an I/O board not found error.  These issues look to be based off each motherboard, as I used the I/O board and the board on the back of the motherboard case from my now-working retro, but am still seeing these same errors.  Are there components I can replace off the motherboards, or do these sound like they're toast?  If they are bad, is it possible to obtain replacement boards?

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Re: Issues with JVL Retro Machines
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2021, 07:27:51 pm »
I don't know about the sound driver error, did you try using the working CF card. I seen weird errors when CF cards have bad sectors, but most likely the ioboard is either not plugged in or it went bad. I woyuld rule out everything else before replacing the motherboard as it doesnt seem like its the cause. I would check all the wiring to make sure everything is plugged in.

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Re: Issues with JVL Retro Machines
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2021, 09:58:46 pm »
I've Frankensteined so many parts from these four JVLs plus a few spare Vortex boards, but the errors always remain the same dependent on which motherboard I'm using.  I also tried various CFs, but still no go.  I do have a vortex board that boots right before the JVL loading screen and then crashes to "No Signal" and tries to boot again, so I'm going to look more into this board tomorrow.  I've tried two CFs on it so far and both result in the same crash.

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Re: Issues with JVL Retro Machines
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2021, 05:33:29 pm »
Well if your sure its the motherboards, then the IOboard error would have to be something wrong with the onboard usb controller. Either way, you will have to buy a replacement motherboard which looks to be selling for $150+ on ebay. Good luck.

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Re: Issues with JVL Retro Machines
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2021, 05:59:08 pm »
Have you tried getting into the bios to ensure the onboard audio and USB are enabled?

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Re: Issues with JVL Retro Machines
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2021, 07:38:28 pm »
Reading again over your posts about the I/O error, I decided to use my complete working set of boards on this JVL Retro shell that I've been testing everything on.  Dang I/O error now cropped up with this working set, so I believe the JVL Retro case I'm using has a bad cord with a split that travels between the motherboard to I/O board.  I think the sound errors must load prior to the I/O check, which is why this threw me off with variable errors dependent on motherboard.  Used a different JVL Retro case and everything boots up perfectly, so now this will be my new testing shell.

As for the BIOS, I totally overlooked checking out the settings to make sure everything is enabled properly.  I plan to get back to these on Thursday and will post updates.

Thank you again for everyone's help and input thus far.

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Re: Issues with JVL Retro Machines
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2021, 11:14:30 am »
Does someone have a photo of how the motherboard connections should look on a Retro or Vortex.  I'm wondering if I'm re-wiring things wrong and possibly causing issues.

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Re: Issues with JVL Retro Machines
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2021, 08:20:42 pm »
Here's an update from what was done over the past week.  When I returned home, I took apart one of the working Retro's and took a picture of the ribbon configuration (posted here for others to reference).  Most my "bad" boards had a matching configuration, where I fixed the ones that didn't, but still meet the same errors with those motherboards.  I ended up ordering one of the motherboards off Ebay and it arrived today.  Put one of my CFs in it and the thing booted like a champ, so at this point I want to say that my other motherboards really are just bad.  I still have one Retro shell left that I might still toy around with and try to get working, but at this point, 3 outta 4 works for me.

Thank you all again for your help on this, as if it weren't for the help from members here and on KLOV, I don't think I would have gotten even one of these to work.

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Re: Issues with JVL Retro Machines
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2021, 11:17:47 pm »
Hello. Brand new to this forum and just recently purchased my first JVL retro at an auction. Previously have always bought various mega touches. The auction house said that the machine previously started up to the main menu screen. When I got it home the machine will not load up at all. The lights all power up and then like a minute or so later I get some extremely thin vertical lines of color on the screen in various area.  I get a quick beep and then what sounds like a little modem static and then like a pc restart beep.  Attached a quick pic of the screen and then my description is best I can do for sound at this point.  Have video of it but too large to post.

Trying to figure out where I start to problem solve this and appreciate any and all help!!

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Re: Issues with JVL Retro Machines
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2021, 04:50:56 am »
I would start by connecting the monitor to different pc to rule out bad monitor. Could be bad monitor controller, or bad video chipset on motherboard.

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Re: Issues with JVL Retro Machines
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2021, 09:23:06 am »
Mahkeymike - thank you very much for the quick reply!  Couple quick questions - in checking the video monitor on another PC, is that a matter of un-connecting teh VGA cord from the inside and then connect to an external PC?  If the monitor is working and it ends up being a bad chipset on mother board or bad monitor controller, are those items that can be bought and then replaced or fixed?  Again - really appreciate the help!!!

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Re: Issues with JVL Retro Machines
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2021, 12:49:04 pm »
Yeah just connect the VGA cable to another pc and power the machine on. If its the monitor you should see those same lines on the monitor. If not, then you need a new jp30 motherboard that can be found on ebay in the $150 price range last time i checked. As far as the monitor, that might be a bit more harder to find.

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Re: Issues with JVL Retro Machines
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2021, 03:57:04 pm »
So I started tearing down the machine to see what treats could be in store for me inside.  Attached are picos the motherboard and supply.  Definitely some black "goo? in certain areas of the motherboard and for sure caked onto the fans.  Then on teh power supply, I was not sure if it was supposed to look like that or if that was going out?  Gotta see what I am going to do here and if worth me fixing or try to part out???

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Re: Issues with JVL Retro Machines
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2021, 06:35:28 pm »
good ol' smokers "dust".

essentially paste made of nicotine,tar,dirt.

formula 409 will take care of it.

as for your monitor LCD, best to swap out the panel as it's probably cracked. you might be able to find something that will work. i have a pile of old 15/17/19" lcd computer monitors i keep around for occasions like this. peel the panel out of them and swap them.

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Re: Issues with JVL Retro Machines
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2021, 02:58:32 pm »
Hello, I am brand new to this forum. I just recently picked up a JVL Retro that had Itouch 11 in it and when turned on it be booting and than gave red screen with error. Reading some things in this forum I found a 9 on eBay that says working and so I purchased it and wanted to start there. I received it and installed in my Retro and at boot up you have to factory reset and than it plays fine. Stay on for hours. Shut off and turn on it boots up and wants to factory reset every time. I changed the battery and still doing the same thing. I donít know what to do for it not to want to be factory reset at boot up every time. Attached is a quick pic of the screen it gives me every time. Any help be very much appreciated!
« Last Edit: October 28, 2021, 08:11:40 pm by johnny16 »

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Re: Issues with JVL Retro Machines
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2021, 06:59:04 am »
Looks like the install usb is still in the game.

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Re: Issues with JVL Retro Machines
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2021, 01:44:07 pm »
or the setup button is bad. If i remember correctly, the button is push momentary OFF meaning it is always making a connection and when you push it, it breaks the connection. So maybe oxidation got in there and is not making a connection anymore. :dunno