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8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« on: April 13, 2021, 05:16:50 pm »
I was contemplating building a dedicated 8-way vertical cabinet; but to be honest, I am not a huge fan of Shumps which seems to be the majority of 8 way vertical games.  I was a fan of 1942, but not enough to warrant a dedicated cab.  There are enough horizontal Shumps that I can play on my other cabinet.  Are there any must play 8-way verticals that are non-shooters or shooters that aren't bullet hell that are more akin to the slower pace of 1942?

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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2021, 06:24:59 pm »
I hate bullet hell shooters.   Some of the best non-bullet-hell vertical shooters in my opinion are from Taito/Toaplan.  Games like Flying Shark, Truxton and Twin Cobra.

Commando is also great.

Non shooter, all I can think of atm is Bomb Jack!


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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2021, 07:35:23 pm »
Gorf is my favorite.

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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2021, 08:18:13 pm »
Scramble, Galaga 3 / Gaplus.
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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2021, 08:25:57 pm »
Time Pilot.

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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2021, 08:59:00 pm »
Ikari Warriors (good luck),
MERCS,
Shock Troopers, and
Shock Troopers 2 come to mind

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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2021, 09:12:21 pm »
Stick with a 4 way for a dedicated vertical. Not enough to warrant an 8 way in my opinion.

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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2021, 09:36:49 pm »
Thanks everyone for the game titles.  Twin Cobras, Gorf, and Commando are great games I remember playing but sadly they aren't worthy of the real estate an additional cabinet would take up. 

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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2021, 10:27:23 pm »
Contra comes to mind.

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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2021, 06:55:20 am »
Time Pilot.

Time Pilot is actually a two-way joystick, though playable with an 8-way. Doesn't that count as a shmup?
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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2021, 06:57:07 am »
Time Pilot is not a 2 way joystick.

It is an 8 way Monroe stick.

Some of them were installed with the Gyruss style 8 way Monroe stick with the circular bottom plate.

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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2021, 09:23:47 am »
Time Pilot is not a 2 way joystick.

It is an 8 way Monroe stick.

Some of them were installed with the Gyruss style 8 way Monroe stick with the circular bottom plate.

Interesting. I don't dispute what you say Mike, just that wasn't what was in the cocktail cab I played Time Pilot on when I was a kid. Of course it was a kit conversion.

I'm pretty good at that game, better than most, and I don't understand why you'd need and 8-way for that game. Maybe that was what they had at the time? All you do is go left and right. If you try to do something else you usually die pretty quick  :dunno

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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2021, 09:26:09 am »
Go into MAME and try to play it with just 2 keys. It doesn't work.

Your memory is incorrect. That is pretty common. It was a long time ago.

I own a Time pilot cab. I have the manual.
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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2021, 09:30:37 am »
Hmm....this makes me question whether I need a 4 or 8 way in my vertical cab.  I was converting it to a jamma cab to run BitKit and MisterCade as well as original boards.  I know playing on the Mister in the bartop I have a 4 way and kept running into games that didn't feel right like 1942 and Legendary Wings.  I will probably make 2 control panels but I needed to figure out which joystick will be used the most.

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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2021, 10:07:34 am »
I'm going down the route of having a 2 player 8-way vertical cab, and a single player 4-way vertical cab.  I like both types of games. I can't do without the 8-way shooters like Flying Shark, Raiden, Commando, etc, but I definitely want to play the classics with a proper 4 way.  Luckily I have the space (just)!   If I didn't have the space I think it would be a CP with both 8-way and 4-way joysticks on, or separate panels.

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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2021, 10:10:09 am »
Gyruss

I am planning to build an arcade cabinet with a rotatable screen and an interchangeable control panel using hand knobs in the corners.  One machine, any purpose. 

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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2021, 11:58:47 am »
I'm going down the route of having a 2 player 8-way vertical cab, and a single player 4-way vertical cab.  I like both types of games. I can't do without the 8-way shooters like Flying Shark, Raiden, Commando, etc, but I definitely want to play the classics with a proper 4 way.  Luckily I have the space (just)!   If I didn't have the space I think it would be a CP with both 8-way and 4-way joysticks on, or separate panels.

I have the room but I am getting down to not having the room for everything I want.  I have a converted Galaga/Ms Pac reunion cab that I have as a dedicated 4 way vert, a converted Arcade Legends for horizontal, Stargate/Defender cabaret, Buck Hunter Safari/World, and a Golden Tee stadium with a flat panel that I have GT 2020, Silver Strike, Putt Putt, and Target Toss that uses a multiboot I/O board I scored years ago with a hard drive selector to select which game to boot.  With the dart board and pool table I have room for one maybe two more units.  I will probably end up doing the 8-way vert simply because there are some of the games that I have very fond memories of and well at 50 nostalgia is ---smurfette--- to overcome.  I really want to build a sim/arcade rig with one of those new uber fancy Fanatec gear drive units.  I also really want an Asteroids machine.  If only we had unlimited space, time, and money in this hobby :)

I am planning to build an arcade cabinet with a rotatable screen and an interchangeable control panel using hand knobs in the corners.  One machine, any purpose.
We entertain a lot with our older kids and their friends in college, grandkids, friends, etc.  During parties, people are on all of the games, shooting pool, or throwing darts.  A single multi-game unit wouldn't work well.  Even swapping control panels would be too much especially after the beer starts flowing :)

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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2021, 04:45:19 pm »
Go into MAME and try to play it with just 2 keys. It doesn't work.

Your memory is incorrect. That is pretty common. It was a long time ago.

I own a Time pilot cab. I have the manual.

Actually I think playing with just left/right was the secret to my success! You don't want to go up/down
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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2021, 05:18:35 pm »
It doesn't work the way you think. Go try it.

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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2021, 05:42:18 pm »
Valkyrie no Densetsu is a vertical adventure game made by Namco in 1989. 8-way game, pretty fun and has some cool parts in it. It's kinda Zelda-like I guess.

KiKi KaiKai is another vertical 8-way game. It's a Taito game made in 1986, and is the predecessor to Pocky and Rocky (SNES). top down, action shooter. pretty fun, but tough as nails.



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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2021, 06:05:51 pm »
It doesn't work the way you think. Go try it.

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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2021, 09:18:09 pm »
Time Pilot works best with a spinner!

Ok, it breaks the game but it’s so much better for me because it feels more natural and I’m not great with the original hardware. ;)

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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2021, 10:13:08 pm »
Time Pilot works best with a spinner!

Ok, it breaks the game but it’s so much better for me because it feels more natural and I’m not great with the original hardware. ;)

 :cheers:  I really want to try that someday.

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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2021, 11:55:12 pm »
Go into MAME and try to play it with just 2 keys. It doesn't work.

Your memory is incorrect. That is pretty common. It was a long time ago.

I own a Time pilot cab. I have the manual.

Actually I think playing with just left/right was the secret to my success! You don't want to go up/down

When you're facing east with the plane, you can't continue to rotate clockwise to face southeast unless you press down. Technically, you can reach all the directions with left and right, but you need the 8-way for full control. Two Tigers just had two directional rotation controls, either with a spinner or a stick. Maybe that's what you're remembering?

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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2021, 10:41:30 pm »
Go into MAME and try to play it with just 2 keys. It doesn't work.

Your memory is incorrect. That is pretty common. It was a long time ago.

I own a Time pilot cab. I have the manual.

Actually I think playing with just left/right was the secret to my success! You don't want to go up/down

When you're facing east with the plane, you can't continue to rotate clockwise to face southeast unless you press down. Technically, you can reach all the directions with left and right, but you need the 8-way for full control. Two Tigers just had two directional rotation controls, either with a spinner or a stick. Maybe that's what you're remembering?

I don't remember Two Tigers much, but that is right.

I tried playing Time Pilot with no up/down and while I got through a few levels, was pretty crap. Some things I took for granted as just left/right were not. Just the mind playing tricks.

I tend to play shooting up to NE corner, so in fact I usually spend 95% of my movement between N and E directions (up/right, presumably because I am right-handed). This is a winning strategy overall. The "trick" is - my brain actually already knows what to do, but tells me that I am just moving left/right as I lull myself into the zone. Psychology and the tricks we play on ourselves is always interesting.
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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2021, 04:16:35 am »
Ikari Warriors (good luck),
MERCS,
Shock Troopers, and
Shock Troopers 2 come to mind
I’m pretty Shock Troopers is a horizontal cab.. awesome game though

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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2021, 09:57:30 pm »

Commando  :cheers:


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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2021, 06:52:36 am »
The Speed Rumbler - quite a fun game
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Re: 8 Way Vertical Games - Outside of Shumps
« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2021, 08:09:37 am »
Cross reference the games listed in the "All Killer, No Filler" lists with the MAME XML screen & input info (although a lot of 2 way games are labeled joy8way).
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