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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2021, 09:58:53 pm »
It's a ---smurfing--- box with a tv in it.
Even a ---smurfy--- circular saw will make squared cuts as long as you set the base plate correctly to begin with.
We are building arcade cabs not Mars rovers...well except for Laythe. He kind of is building a NASA project. That metal working requires an extra level of precision, skills, and tools.
Yeah, Iím not worried about this at all.  Iím actually trying to be less anal with these cabs so Iím going to try cuts with the circular saw and some brads to assemble.  Should be doable in a weekend, right?  Itís just a ---smurfing--- box!

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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2021, 10:06:30 pm »
It's a ---smurfing--- box with a tv in it.
Even a ---smurfy--- circular saw will make squared cuts as long as you set the base plate correctly to begin with.
We are building arcade cabs not Mars rovers...well except for Laythe. He kind of is building a NASA project. That metal working requires an extra level of precision, skills, and tools.

Precisely...

Get it?!

Precisely?!
 :lol

Lol I agree with yuze all. Circular saw, T-square, sandpaper, eyeballs. All of your sins will be forgiven in the final shots.

Cheap table saw to make those long cuts it easier. Watch a few safety videos before you do, so you can come back to the forum with all your limbs intact.

We outta rename the forum "Build Your Own Arcade Mars Helicopter".
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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #42 on: April 12, 2021, 10:32:30 pm »
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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #43 on: April 13, 2021, 05:07:02 am »
I wouldnt consider cutting a strait line rocket science, But doing it with a skill saw?...Well don't hurt yourself man.

Local carpenters take a normal skill saw and turn it into a basic table saw by mounting it upside-down on a home-made wooden bracket. Our two-storey house is made by this technology.

Not Mars landing technology perhaps, but they do pretty easily manage some long straight cuts with a skill saw.
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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #44 on: April 13, 2021, 06:53:19 am »
With all this talk about the saw I canít wait to try it!  Iíve actually never used one - never really needed one but I wanted to give it a shot.  How else are you guys cutting long straight lines?

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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #45 on: April 13, 2021, 10:01:47 am »
I cut all my cabs with just a skill saw. I dont let it stress me out. I did use a router for the marquee and bezel. My cuts aren't perfect, but hit it with a sander, throw some paint and t moulding on and it will look fine. I appreciate everyone's craftsmanship and perfection, but I dont have it in me.

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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #46 on: April 13, 2021, 10:13:09 am »
If I'm breaking down a 4x4 sheet I'll use a circular saw with a clamped straight edge.  But whenever I can I use my table saw simply because I enjoy using it.

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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #47 on: April 13, 2021, 11:09:34 am »
If I'm breaking down a 4x4 sheet I'll use a circular saw with a clamped straight edge.  But whenever I can I use my table saw simply because I enjoy using it.
If I had one I for sure would rather do my long cuts on it.

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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #48 on: April 13, 2021, 11:20:34 am »
For what it is worth my brother-in-law is a professional fine carpenter with a very nice cabinet saw that he no longer uses.  He's converted completely to using a Festool track saw and swears by the ease and accuracy of it. 

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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2021, 11:21:05 am »
We may need to move this thread to the Woodworking section now...lol

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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #50 on: April 13, 2021, 09:36:04 pm »
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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #51 on: April 13, 2021, 10:00:18 pm »
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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2021, 09:16:47 am »
Cut list is done.  Not to scale LOL.  Going to try and cut most of the panels today - finally going to be nice out.



On Sunday I made a saw board for my new circular saw.  Took 20 minutes to put together.  I think itís going to work great.  I bought a finishing blade with a lot of teeth for a nice clean cut.

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« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2021, 05:46:53 pm »
OK eff the sawboard.  No matter what I do Iím off by 1/32Ē on long cuts.  Itís driving me crazy.  Iím going back to tried and true method of jigsaw and clean up the line with the router.  Takes twice as long but itís dead accurate.

I got all 12 panels cut.  Tomorrow Iíll cut holes for the marquee, coin door, speakers, power receptacle, etc.  Only 3 panels actually need any attention before paint.

Iím not even joking when I say the toughest thing for me to do is cut square panels.  Seems like it should be simple but whatever...
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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #54 on: April 20, 2021, 05:58:41 pm »
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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #55 on: April 20, 2021, 06:51:14 pm »
Well yeah but I donít have a jointer or tablesaw or a shop for that matter... I have a table and some hand tools.

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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #56 on: April 20, 2021, 07:59:27 pm »
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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #57 on: April 22, 2021, 01:36:36 am »
Well yeah but I donít have a jointer or tablesaw or a shop for that matter... I have a table and some hand tools.

One of the issues with a table saw is finding the space to use it to full effect with large pieces. You need room to input the work to the saw, as well as room for it coming out. Huge tables are the bomb if you have unlimited the space. Oh and don't forget that it generates a shitload of sawdust that goes everywhere so you have to contain (bag, vacuum) that or cut outside.
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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #58 on: April 22, 2021, 05:23:37 am »
This is absolutely true.

Problem with all those machines that cut so perfectly the first shot is that they take up a crap load of space.

If you have found a method that works for you with the tools that your space, time and budget allow then please ignore all of us!
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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #59 on: April 22, 2021, 11:33:35 am »
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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #60 on: April 22, 2021, 11:37:50 am »
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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #61 on: April 22, 2021, 12:15:52 pm »
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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #62 on: May 05, 2021, 11:35:39 am »
The weather has been rainy/cold here forever it seems so no physical work on the cabinets in a while but I have been trying to set up the software behind the scenes.  I am going to try using bbegin's dedicated pi image running the latest version of MAME with Attract Mode as the front end.  I don't know how it works yet but I am getting there. 

Anyway, I started putting together the game list.  Vertical monitor with 4-way joystick and two action buttons.  What am I missing?

Amidar
Astro Blaster
Astro Invader
Bagman
Burger Time
Crush Roller
Dig Dug
Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong II
Donkey Kong 3
Donkey Kong, Jr.
Eyes
Frogger
Galaga
Galaxian
Gaplus
Gorf
Gyruss
Jr. Pac-Man
Jumping Jack
King & Balloon
Ladybug
Lock-n-Chase
Mappy
Moon Cresta
Ms. Pac-Man
Mr. Do!
Mr. Do!'s Castle
Nibbler
Pac-Man
Pac & Pal
Pac-Man Plus
Pandora's Palace
Pepper II
Pengo
Phoenix
Pooyan
Qix
Rally-X
Satan's Hallow
Space Invaders
Super Bagman
Super Pac-Man
The End
The Tower of Druaga

This seems like a decent selection of games for my nieces/nephews who likely haven't played any of these games ever.

I have all of the panels cut but not painted/assembled yet (and I still need to cut holes in the front panel for the marquee, coin door and speakers).  I think one sunny weekend and I'll be in good shape.

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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #63 on: May 05, 2021, 11:51:21 am »
Circus Charlie. It is a 2 way game, but it will play okay with a 4 way.


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« Reply #64 on: May 05, 2021, 12:18:59 pm »
Circus Charlie. It is a 2 way game, but it will play okay with a 4 way.
Good call.  Oversight on my part - I play that game often.

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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #65 on: May 05, 2021, 04:09:53 pm »
Bomb Jack should be playable with a 4-way, right?

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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #66 on: May 05, 2021, 04:26:31 pm »
I play 1942 with my 4-way but it does feel more difficult but I guess if you are playing Gorf its about the same.

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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #67 on: May 24, 2021, 11:22:39 am »
Coin doors just arrived.  I was trying to keep this "cheap" but a single slot coin door looked weird to me so I sprung for the doubles.  $150 for two doors.  It's only money!

I need to get motivated again.  Panels are all cut (mostly) but I still have to paint before assembly...  Once it's 3D things should move quickly but I've been lazy...

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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #68 on: May 25, 2021, 10:25:23 am »
Looking good James!

I made one of those saw boards and had the same problem, it was always around 1/32 to 1/16 inch off.
I gave up and scrapped it after a while. Could not figure out what i was doing wrong.

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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #69 on: May 25, 2021, 10:28:15 am »
If you are down to 1/32nd building an arcade cab you are golden.

1/32 inch is less than a millimeter.

What tolerances are you guys looking for?

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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #70 on: May 25, 2021, 11:41:17 am »
If you are down to 1/32nd building an arcade cab you are golden.

1/32 inch is less than a millimeter.

What tolerances are you guys looking for?

Honestly, I think it is a mild mental disorder.  I am constantly fighting with myself over "good enough" v. "perfect" when good enough is... well, good enough.  I can't seem to let it go.  It's not just with arcade cabinets - every aspect of my life.  Mowing the grass, cleaning the house, etc.  I can't even enjoy a movie without stressing over picture and sound quality.  I hate it.

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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #71 on: May 25, 2021, 11:55:54 am »
You can't measure 1/32 of an inch accurately anyways.

It is the width of a mechanical pencil lead.

You need to break out of that thinking. Your productivity will be unbelievable, and you will be happier.


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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #72 on: May 25, 2021, 12:12:21 pm »
Dig dug 2 should make use of that extra button

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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #73 on: May 25, 2021, 12:23:31 pm »
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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #74 on: May 25, 2021, 02:28:42 pm »
The weather has been rainy/cold here forever it seems so no physical work on the cabinets in a while but I have been trying to set up the software behind the scenes.  I am going to try using bbegin's dedicated pi image running the latest version of MAME with Attract Mode as the front end.  I don't know how it works yet but I am getting there. 

Anyway, I started putting together the game list.  Vertical monitor with 4-way joystick and two action buttons.  What am I missing?

Amidar
....

Carnival
Guzzler
Lunar Rescue

Also, Pepper II and Rally X are horizontal...

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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #75 on: May 26, 2021, 03:44:25 am »
You can't measure 1/32 of an inch accurately anyways.

It is the width of a mechanical pencil lead.

You need to break out of that thinking. Your productivity will be unbelievable, and you will be happier.

I'm satisfied at 1/16" myself-

And this week I'm accepting 1/8" just so I can get the freaking machine operational before the month is over.
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« Reply #76 on: September 19, 2021, 01:38:35 pm »
OK - bumping this thread to get me moving.  The summer of extreme heat and an unusually busy work schedule didn't allow me to do much of anything on this project.  I also lost power in my garage and the electrician cannot figure out why and the only solution is to dig a 60' trench and bury a new line in the backyard.  So my "shop" has no electricity unless I run an extension cord from the house.  Hoping to get this fixed in the next 2 weeks.

All of the panels are cut so I'm working on the front panel where the cutouts are as well as the rear panels where I need a few holes for the camlock and the power receptacle.  I'm also still undecided on the front panel.  I'm definitely offsetting the coin door (to the left) but not sure what to do about the speakers on the right.  Anyone have any links to rectangular speaker grills about 6"x9" or so?

Based on the feedback, I'm adding Kicker, Carnival, Guzzler, Circus Charlie and Lunar Rescue to the final list of 4-way; 2 button controls.. and I might actually ditch the second button since not that many games on this list use it... but I don't want to lose Qix.

Amidar
Anteater
Armored Car
Astro Blaster
Astro Invader
Bagman
Burger Time
Carnival
Cavelon
Circus Charlie
Crush Roller
Dig Dug
Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong II
Donkey Kong 3
Donkey Kong, Jr.
Eyes
Frogger
Galaga
Galaga '88
Galaxian
Gaplus
Gorf
Guzzler
Gyruss
Jr. Pac-Man
Jumping Jack
Kicker
King & Balloon
Lasso
Ladybug
Lock-n-Chase
Lunar Rescue
Mappy
Monster Bash
Moon Cresta
Ms. Pac-Man
Mr. Do!
Mr. Do!'s Castle
Nibbler
Pac-Man
Pac & Pal
Pac-Man Plus
Pandora's Palace
Pengo
Phoenix
Pioneer Balloon
Pleiads
Pooyan
Qix
Satan's Hallow
Space Invaders
Super Bagman
Super Pac-Man
The End
The Tower of Druaga
Van-Van Car
Zzyzzyxx
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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #77 on: September 19, 2021, 11:20:30 pm »
For Qix and Phoenix I would want two buttons  :)

Was the line feeding your workshop direct burial or in conduit and how old is it?

Very uncommon for wire to fail unless cut, nailed through, pinched, etc.

Trenching (again) sucks but if it can't be avoided...

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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #78 on: September 20, 2021, 06:15:47 am »
Hey bobby - the line is running through underground conduit from the back of my house (somewhere) to the garage.  It was put there in 2013 so not that long ago.  The breaker in my basement keeps tripping so Iím told that means there is a short along the line somewhere but the electrician couldnít find it.  When the line gets to the house it becomes buried in my theater wall for a bit on the way to the breaker box and I cannot open up the wall for a number of reasons.

We had massive flooding in NJ from the hurricane a few weeks ago and that is when it stopped working.  I had no water in my house thankfully but there is evidence that there was at least some water in my detached garaged where my tools are.

Iím probably keeping 2 buttons on the CP - itís not crowded at all and will look just fine with the 2 start buttons, pause/exit and the joystick on there.ll

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Re: javeryh's Twin Tullys
« Reply #79 on: September 21, 2021, 12:39:33 am »
Sorry to hear you got caught up in that deluge and bummer on the electric.
Only person who could really sort out what it is would be the person who pulled the circuit originally.

But if there is no junction box anywhere between house panel and garage (where there could be wires soaking together and shorting that run) then something got pinched somewhere.

I suppose it is a good excuse to upgrade if the budget bears it.

I was ready to put 3 or 4 buttons on one of my panels and opted for just two myself also (four I guess when you account for ambidexterity.)
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