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your thoughts on current 4-way joysticks please
KenToad:
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--- Quote from: leapinlew on March 20, 2021, 11:52:05 am ---For games that I've sold, I've used a HAPP super with a 4 way restrictor (https://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=310) and a ball top replacement.
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^ This is my preferred MAME cabinet 4-way solution right here. I hate bat tops so the ball top mod is just as important as the restrictor.
I know microswitches are typically deemed rather unsexy, especially when the focus is a generation of games that predominantly used leaf switches. So, if someone has a microswitch aversion, then a ball top and restrictor are not going to change their mind; I understand that.
But the way I look at it is, most MAME cabinets are inherently multi-purpose so "authenticity" for specific games kind of goes out the window anyway, so why fuss over it? Instead, I look for a joystick that is comfortable to use and makes my character reliably go where I want it to go in the widest possible range of 4-way games.
Not sure if this "test" is still planned or ongoing, but other games I'd recommend trying are Nibbler and Frogger. The former to test the stick's ability to accuratey register multiple direction changes in short succession; the latter to test the stick's ability to accurately (and comfortably) register multiple taps in the same direction.
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I have the 4 way restrictor from GGG on a super joystick and it doesn't seem to restrict diagonals very well unless I add a shim spacer so it sits a bit lower down. I don't have the ball top replacement, just the normal super bat top, but I wouldn't get a ball top because the restricted joystick doesn't give me that 4-way joystick feeling. The throw is too long on the super.
Jimbo, I'm looking forward to the comparison. :cheers:
leapinlew:
Ms Pac-Man speed up. When it’s fast, executing cardinal directions only while rolling the joystick to make quick turns is when it’s essential to have a 4 way only joystick.
Cynicaster:
--- Quote from: KenToad on May 06, 2021, 05:30:09 pm ---
--- Quote from: Cynicaster on May 06, 2021, 12:54:32 pm ---
--- Quote from: leapinlew on March 20, 2021, 11:52:05 am ---For games that I've sold, I've used a HAPP super with a 4 way restrictor (https://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=310) and a ball top replacement.
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^ This is my preferred MAME cabinet 4-way solution right here. I hate bat tops so the ball top mod is just as important as the restrictor.
I know microswitches are typically deemed rather unsexy, especially when the focus is a generation of games that predominantly used leaf switches. So, if someone has a microswitch aversion, then a ball top and restrictor are not going to change their mind; I understand that.
But the way I look at it is, most MAME cabinets are inherently multi-purpose so "authenticity" for specific games kind of goes out the window anyway, so why fuss over it? Instead, I look for a joystick that is comfortable to use and makes my character reliably go where I want it to go in the widest possible range of 4-way games.
Not sure if this "test" is still planned or ongoing, but other games I'd recommend trying are Nibbler and Frogger. The former to test the stick's ability to accuratey register multiple direction changes in short succession; the latter to test the stick's ability to accurately (and comfortably) register multiple taps in the same direction.
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I have the 4 way restrictor from GGG on a super joystick and it doesn't seem to restrict diagonals very well unless I add a shim spacer so it sits a bit lower down. I don't have the ball top replacement, just the normal super bat top, but I wouldn't get a ball top because the restricted joystick doesn't give me that 4-way joystick feeling. The throw is too long on the super.
Jimbo, I'm looking forward to the comparison. :cheers:
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Interesting... now that I think about it, when I first tried the GGG restrictor about 8 years ago I had to fiddle with the actuator lever thingies on the Super a little bit to dial it in, but once I did that it worked like champ for several years until I wore the joystick out. I got a new Super and swapped over the restrictor and that one worked fine right out of the box.
Vocalitus:
I'll probably get laughed at.....
I am liking the crap joystick they stuck in the 1up countercade v2. Easy throw, somewhat stiffer and hits all directions, simple design.
I usually buy Happ Supers or the Seimitsu LS-32. I'll go analog or Xbox controller for 8 way, but not so much now. All my cabs bar one is 4 way super or Seimitsu.
roknrol:
Hey Jimbo - Did you ever complete your testing? I had bookmarked this thread long ago, but it doesn’t look like much activity has transpired. Just curious.